He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Read a little before you open your mouth, will you? Snarky only works if it's based on truth.
He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Well, you're not considering the fact that steve jobs could be behind this. That is how smooth he operates. Have you forgotten Gizmodo, and the Asian suicides?
He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Of course.. because its completely unbelievable that someone already involved in criminal activities would be involved in other criminal activities..
Surprisingly, no, not much. A lot of these so-called security professionals are "reformed" hackers. A pretty weird bunch, though I don't suppose most of them are nearly as bizarre as this individual.
I think it is a real shame that someone with his apparent technical skills is so far off the mark in other parts of his life. It would have been great for him to have used his talents to a better, more constructive purpose. I suppose the acid & X (LSD and MDMA both have hallucinogenic effects, although opposite ends of the spectrum) indicate a desire to escape. The other controlled substances also probably had a lot to do with him not focusing on doing good. Not that everyone that has used or uses drugs will go down this path but it does appear to be a lifestyle for this bozo - not experimental or recreational use.
Do not get me wrong - I think they need to string the guy up by his 'nads - if he has any.
Isn't it deliciously ironic that this guy is Gizmodo's poster child for beleaguered, security expert caught in the crosshairs of corporate greed and law enforcement while fighting the good fight?
One of the examples I was going to mention. At least Mitnick wasn't a complete nutter.
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I think it is a real shame that someone with his apparent technical skills is so far off the mark in other parts of his life. It would have been great for him to have used his talents to a better, more constructive purpose. I suppose the acid & X (LSD and MDMA both have hallucinogenic effects, although opposite ends of the spectrum) indicate a desire to escape. The other controlled substances also probably had a lot to do with him not focusing on doing good. Not that everyone that has used or uses drugs will go down this path but it does appear to be a lifestyle for this bozo - not experimental or recreational use.
Do not get me wrong - I think they need to string the guy up by his 'nads - if he has any.
Seems like a case of the avenging angel syndrome. Of course we're overlooking the very real possibility that he was set up, that the drugs were planted in his home, and he never posted those hateful podcasts.
Maybe it is a corporate police state. Or maybe they went after a hacker who hacked into AT&T. Or maybe because the FBI already was aware of him after he made anti-Semitic threatening calls to Beth Israel saying ?The Nazis are coming to get you; there will be another Holocaust? and ?You killed my Lord. You will pay.?
You never know.
Judging by the referenced article, this is the Vancouver is in Washington State (across the bridge from Portland, OR) and not the Vancouver in BC, Canada. Perhaps, the editor should make a correction here.
WTF are you talking about, would it be better if they busted him for drugs and found out he was a baby killer, as long as that baby didn't belong to anyone rich or famous(?)
You miss the point. They just happened to go after him for possession and he just happened to be involved in the other event, so the point was the drugs were a front and they masked their true intentions with it. If he didn't hack, he'd be high right now, and if he didn't get high, they would have used another reason to arrest him.
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Maybe it is a corporate police state. Or maybe they went after a hacker who hacked into AT&T. Or maybe because the FBI already was aware of him after he made anti-Semitic threatening calls to Beth Israel saying “The Nazis are coming to get you; there will be another Holocaust” and “You killed my Lord. You will pay.”
You never know.
The articles I read (and admittedly not thoroughly) said the reason for arresting him was for possession of drugs, not for the hacking incident.
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Actually as I understand it, they served a warrant to take his computers as part of an investigation into the ATT trick and what other hacking he's been up to, since it's going across state lines, affecting hundreds of thousands etc. According to at least one version of the story, he sold the email addresses he had gathered to the media (although he claims to have not kept a copy), so that probably didn't sit well either.
And when serving it the drugs were in plain site, which means that the Feds can seize them and act on them. Even if the warrant says nothing about drugs.
So even if they can't make the hacking or some kind of cyber terrorism stick, they have felony drug possession they can stick on him
Finally someone explains it instead of biting my head off. I hate reading about things like this right away because facts always get mixed up. So they in fact were at his house for the sole purpose of this hacking crime, and not for the drugs? That changes my perspective entirely.
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Read a little before you open your mouth, will you? Snarky only works if it's based on truth.
Read a little? I've read about 3 different articles on this. All 3 say the same thing: Arrested on felony drug charges.
Why wasn't he being arrested for hacking?
BTW, I'm typing, not opening my mouth. It's the internet.
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Well, you're not considering the fact that steve jobs could be behind this. That is how smooth he operates. Have you forgotten Gizmodo, and the Asian suicides?
I better not say anything else then! :O
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Of course.. because its completely unbelievable that someone already involved in criminal activities would be involved in other criminal activities..
Really? You think that's some sort of amazing point to make as a reply to what I said?
Had the drugs not been present, would he had been arrested for hacking? Just ask yourself that question, then ask yourself if the government even has the right to tell you what you can and can't put in your body. It wasn't a drug trafficking charge, it was a possession charge.
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He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Read a little before you open your mouth, will you? Snarky only works if it's based on truth.
He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Well, you're not considering the fact that steve jobs could be behind this. That is how smooth he operates. Have you forgotten Gizmodo, and the Asian suicides?
I can't wait until he argues in court that he can't be busted because he's a journalist.
You're too late -- even weirder theories are already being offered right here.
Remember, even hacking, anti-Semitic druggie religious fanatics need love too.
I'd imagine the FBI is going to throw the book at this guy - if only cause they can't charge him with hacking.
Don't get me wrong... I'm all for throwing the book at psychotic, racial cleansing, freak-tards.
He got arrested for drugs and not for hacking? Well that's an interesting coincidence isn't it?
"While busting this guy for pot, we just happen to stumble upon evidence that links him to hacking a product belonging to a large corporation with seemingly endless money."
So not only are we a police state, we're a corporate owned police state.
Of course.. because its completely unbelievable that someone already involved in criminal activities would be involved in other criminal activities..
"Died Hard: The Ressurection".
"This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs!"
'nuff Said!
Surprisingly, no, not much. A lot of these so-called security professionals are "reformed" hackers. A pretty weird bunch, though I don't suppose most of them are nearly as bizarre as this individual.
I think it is a real shame that someone with his apparent technical skills is so far off the mark in other parts of his life. It would have been great for him to have used his talents to a better, more constructive purpose. I suppose the acid & X (LSD and MDMA both have hallucinogenic effects, although opposite ends of the spectrum) indicate a desire to escape. The other controlled substances also probably had a lot to do with him not focusing on doing good. Not that everyone that has used or uses drugs will go down this path but it does appear to be a lifestyle for this bozo - not experimental or recreational use.
Do not get me wrong - I think they need to string the guy up by his 'nads - if he has any.
Well, I guess this means he will have to forget his role in the next Die Hard movie,
"Died Hard: The Ressurection".
You mean "Die Hard: The Intervention"
Does the name Kevin Mitnick ring a bell??
One of the examples I was going to mention. At least Mitnick wasn't a complete nutter.
I think it is a real shame that someone with his apparent technical skills is so far off the mark in other parts of his life. It would have been great for him to have used his talents to a better, more constructive purpose. I suppose the acid & X (LSD and MDMA both have hallucinogenic effects, although opposite ends of the spectrum) indicate a desire to escape. The other controlled substances also probably had a lot to do with him not focusing on doing good. Not that everyone that has used or uses drugs will go down this path but it does appear to be a lifestyle for this bozo - not experimental or recreational use.
Do not get me wrong - I think they need to string the guy up by his 'nads - if he has any.
Seems like a case of the avenging angel syndrome. Of course we're overlooking the very real possibility that he was set up, that the drugs were planted in his home, and he never posted those hateful podcasts.
Maybe it is a corporate police state. Or maybe they went after a hacker who hacked into AT&T. Or maybe because the FBI already was aware of him after he made anti-Semitic threatening calls to Beth Israel saying ?The Nazis are coming to get you; there will be another Holocaust? and ?You killed my Lord. You will pay.?
You never know.
Judging by the referenced article, this is the Vancouver is in Washington State (across the bridge from Portland, OR) and not the Vancouver in BC, Canada. Perhaps, the editor should make a correction here.
You mean "Die Hard: The Intervention"
i was allowing for a pun on his religious ranting, so lets compromise
Died Hard: The Inquisition
WTF are you talking about, would it be better if they busted him for drugs and found out he was a baby killer, as long as that baby didn't belong to anyone rich or famous(?)
You miss the point. They just happened to go after him for possession and he just happened to be involved in the other event, so the point was the drugs were a front and they masked their true intentions with it. If he didn't hack, he'd be high right now, and if he didn't get high, they would have used another reason to arrest him.
Maybe it is a corporate police state. Or maybe they went after a hacker who hacked into AT&T. Or maybe because the FBI already was aware of him after he made anti-Semitic threatening calls to Beth Israel saying “The Nazis are coming to get you; there will be another Holocaust” and “You killed my Lord. You will pay.”
You never know.
The articles I read (and admittedly not thoroughly) said the reason for arresting him was for possession of drugs, not for the hacking incident.
Actually as I understand it, they served a warrant to take his computers as part of an investigation into the ATT trick and what other hacking he's been up to, since it's going across state lines, affecting hundreds of thousands etc. According to at least one version of the story, he sold the email addresses he had gathered to the media (although he claims to have not kept a copy), so that probably didn't sit well either.
And when serving it the drugs were in plain site, which means that the Feds can seize them and act on them. Even if the warrant says nothing about drugs.
So even if they can't make the hacking or some kind of cyber terrorism stick, they have felony drug possession they can stick on him
Finally someone explains it instead of biting my head off. I hate reading about things like this right away because facts always get mixed up. So they in fact were at his house for the sole purpose of this hacking crime, and not for the drugs? That changes my perspective entirely.
Read a little before you open your mouth, will you? Snarky only works if it's based on truth.
Read a little? I've read about 3 different articles on this. All 3 say the same thing: Arrested on felony drug charges.
Why wasn't he being arrested for hacking?
BTW, I'm typing, not opening my mouth. It's the internet.
Well, you're not considering the fact that steve jobs could be behind this. That is how smooth he operates. Have you forgotten Gizmodo, and the Asian suicides?
I better not say anything else then! :O
Of course.. because its completely unbelievable that someone already involved in criminal activities would be involved in other criminal activities..
Really? You think that's some sort of amazing point to make as a reply to what I said?
Had the drugs not been present, would he had been arrested for hacking? Just ask yourself that question, then ask yourself if the government even has the right to tell you what you can and can't put in your body. It wasn't a drug trafficking charge, it was a possession charge.
OMG! He's a hobbit!
Even more oddly, the address listed in the booking is for an attorney in Arkansas.