I am not a fan of Apple as many of you may know, but I'm behind them on this one because this is pretty lame for having a class action lawsuit on downtime.. I mean come on, every site has downtime. If this actually goes anywhere, hell I'll just sue every company whenever they have a downtime and I'll be rich in no time.. sheesh.
Then what the hell are you doing on an Apple centric web site? Living vicariously? Penis envy? What? Aren't there plenty of Android sites where you can not be a fan of Apple?
So unless someone can guarantee that their product or service is available every second of every day, they get sued?
Ridiculous.
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
Except that nowhere does Apple provide any service level guarantee so these tits are suing for something that no one promised them.
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
That much is true, but I understand those are pricey options geared towards large organizations. I don't think any of the consumer cloud services guarantee an up time.
Everyone should relax... the ability to sue corporations is the only thing that keeps the corporations honest. If the courts let this in, then it gets in. If it doesn't, well it wasn't worth talking about. Either way, this isn't impacting you negatively, so why whine about it?
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
That applies when you have a contractual agreement as to uptime. All you have to do is show that Apple signed a contract guaranteeing uptime.
And then you have to show that the contract is valid - which might be questionable since there's no compensation.
Then what the hell are you doing on an Apple centric web site? Living vicariously? Penis envy? What? Aren't there plenty of Android sites where you can not be a fan of Apple?
That much is true, but I understand those are pricey options geared towards large organizations. I don't think any of the consumer cloud services guarantee an up time.
Not just large organizations, many ISP's give you a uptime for business grade ADSL links or VPS solutions. You dont have to always spend a lot of money to get a SLA.
Obviously Apple would never give a SLA for a service like this but I just wanted to point out it's a very common practice that you can be sued for if you don't provide what was specified.
I simply don't know WTF this is all about. "simply because they failed to see the wisdom years ago of having a .Mac account" immediately followed by "not being able to merge accounts". Which is it" They had accounts or not?
I have had a .Mac account since the free days, stayed a a paid subscriber, didn't change to Google because I didn't like Google's terms of service when GMail started and never wanted Hotmail, even less now on both. I don't see the problems these people are claiming. Apple was very forthright with multiple reminder emails during the transition and extended the MobileMe membership at no cost for a good length of time to ensure plenty of opportunity to transition. I am not thrilled that iCloud/iWork integration is still horrid for the desktop, and I really don't like the loss of keychain syncing, but I'm not paying anymore, its a free service so I'll ask for changes but there's nothing to sue over.
I think the iWork thing will change with the next version released for OS X, I'm not sure we will ever get Keychain syncing back. Still nothing to sue over since the paid service did a sunset with lots of notification and additional gratis membership time to do that transition.
We are faced with the issue presently where my wife's pre mobile me apple id account is unable to be merged with the family account that I set up under mobile me. when registering for her account we got the message that "that account name cannot be used, choose another name." as we were unable to login to it, and eventually figured it must have been that someone else had used that appleid to register a .mac account as we were unable to get further information on authenticating to that account. The earlier account was eventually recovered many years later, once we figured out that the postcode and email address used to create the account was different and got the account activated again, so wanted to regain use of the existing (originally desired) account name, however we have been unable to merge this and ended up purchasing on iTunes with the new account in her name. so now we have 2 accounts, one appleid in the name she wanted to use, with earlier purchases on it, the other in the name she had to think up on the spot (containing numbers instead of letters etc) and is just harder to use and transfer to people by voice "yeah its this word, but then change the o's to 0's and the e's to 3's" all because we were unable to recall a password for a period of time, and with purchases on it also.
Yes we should have remembered our password in the first instance. Yes we should be happy that it's our fault, We are long term apple customers having purchased our first mac in 1986, working in the graphic arts industries etc for decades, promoting the cause, active evangelist members through the dark days, been full family membership paying members of mobile me, and just requesting it to be possibly to migrate our purchases onto the account we originally set up.
Apple products make my life so much easier, and generally do "better" than everyone else. Not being able to migrate accounts is the one ongoing issue that I am unable to resolve for my wife, which of course makes me sad.
That is one reason why someone might want to merge an apple id. I do not wish to sue apple.
Is it good enough? should I settle for just being able to use both accounts? it is clumsy, and very unlike my other interactions with apple products, so being that it is still in my face daily, quite disappointing really.
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Yes, and I'm waiting for his explanation on why he believes it doesn't.
And I suppose people will be suing over this next:
Anyone can try to make a notebook that’s thin and light. Success comes in doing it without cutting corners. That’s why MacBook Air features a full-size keyboard, not a condensed version of what you’re used to. When you type on the MacBook Air, it’s just as comfortable as typing on a desktop keyboard. And now the keyboard is backlit, so you can type comfortably even in low-light conditions. A built-in sensor detects changes in the ambient lighting and adjusts the keyboard and display brightness automatically, giving youthe perfect illumination in any environment.
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Then what the hell are you doing on an Apple centric web site? Living vicariously? Penis envy? What? Aren't there plenty of Android sites where you can not be a fan of Apple?
But iCloud is free. Oh wait, I get it now!
"Let me show how your petty aggravations can profit you..." Joni Mitchell, The Three Great Stimulants from Dog Eat Dog
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Originally Posted by jragosta
This is getting absurd.
So unless someone can guarantee that their product or service is available every second of every day, they get sued?
Ridiculous.
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
100 bil in the bank = entitled wankers feel like they have some right to it.
With all that cash it would cost less to pay assassins, to kill all those loser money grabbing bastards, than lawyers.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Fairly common in the IT world to have a specific uptime that you are held accountable for although I doubt Apple would ever give you a figure i.e 99.999%. You can easily be sued for not adhering to an uptime.
Except that nowhere does Apple provide any service level guarantee so these tits are suing for something that no one promised them.
That much is true, but I understand those are pricey options geared towards large organizations. I don't think any of the consumer cloud services guarantee an up time.
Everyone should relax... the ability to sue corporations is the only thing that keeps the corporations honest. If the courts let this in, then it gets in. If it doesn't, well it wasn't worth talking about. Either way, this isn't impacting you negatively, so why whine about it?
That applies when you have a contractual agreement as to uptime. All you have to do is show that Apple signed a contract guaranteeing uptime.
And then you have to show that the contract is valid - which might be questionable since there's no compensation.
Careful. I asked that and got jumped on.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
That much is true, but I understand those are pricey options geared towards large organizations. I don't think any of the consumer cloud services guarantee an up time.
Not just large organizations, many ISP's give you a uptime for business grade ADSL links or VPS solutions. You dont have to always spend a lot of money to get a SLA.
Obviously Apple would never give a SLA for a service like this but I just wanted to point out it's a very common practice that you can be sued for if you don't provide what was specified.
Why is everyone surprised and shocked? This is what happens when you have $100 billion in cash in the bank. Payback!
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Originally Posted by iVlad
They should also sue God...
This has already been made into a movie:-
Karma is a bitch.
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Originally Posted by Relic
Karma is a bitch.
Did… Apple mock RIM when their servers went down?
Maybe someone fk'd the brains out of her skull!
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Originally Posted by Hiro
I simply don't know WTF this is all about. "simply because they failed to see the wisdom years ago of having a .Mac account" immediately followed by "not being able to merge accounts". Which is it" They had accounts or not?
I have had a .Mac account since the free days, stayed a a paid subscriber, didn't change to Google because I didn't like Google's terms of service when GMail started and never wanted Hotmail, even less now on both. I don't see the problems these people are claiming. Apple was very forthright with multiple reminder emails during the transition and extended the MobileMe membership at no cost for a good length of time to ensure plenty of opportunity to transition. I am not thrilled that iCloud/iWork integration is still horrid for the desktop, and I really don't like the loss of keychain syncing, but I'm not paying anymore, its a free service so I'll ask for changes but there's nothing to sue over.
I think the iWork thing will change with the next version released for OS X, I'm not sure we will ever get Keychain syncing back. Still nothing to sue over since the paid service did a sunset with lots of notification and additional gratis membership time to do that transition.
We are faced with the issue presently where my wife's pre mobile me apple id account is unable to be merged with the family account that I set up under mobile me. when registering for her account we got the message that "that account name cannot be used, choose another name." as we were unable to login to it, and eventually figured it must have been that someone else had used that appleid to register a .mac account as we were unable to get further information on authenticating to that account. The earlier account was eventually recovered many years later, once we figured out that the postcode and email address used to create the account was different and got the account activated again, so wanted to regain use of the existing (originally desired) account name, however we have been unable to merge this and ended up purchasing on iTunes with the new account in her name. so now we have 2 accounts, one appleid in the name she wanted to use, with earlier purchases on it, the other in the name she had to think up on the spot (containing numbers instead of letters etc) and is just harder to use and transfer to people by voice "yeah its this word, but then change the o's to 0's and the e's to 3's" all because we were unable to recall a password for a period of time, and with purchases on it also.
Yes we should have remembered our password in the first instance. Yes we should be happy that it's our fault, We are long term apple customers having purchased our first mac in 1986, working in the graphic arts industries etc for decades, promoting the cause, active evangelist members through the dark days, been full family membership paying members of mobile me, and just requesting it to be possibly to migrate our purchases onto the account we originally set up.
Apple products make my life so much easier, and generally do "better" than everyone else. Not being able to migrate accounts is the one ongoing issue that I am unable to resolve for my wife, which of course makes me sad.
That is one reason why someone might want to merge an apple id. I do not wish to sue apple.
Is it good enough? should I settle for just being able to use both accounts? it is clumsy, and very unlike my other interactions with apple products, so being that it is still in my face daily, quite disappointing really.
I think Apple is creating problems for itself by making advertising claims like:
"Every document, every edit, everywhere"
and
"It just works"
Neither of which are true.
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Originally Posted by dave2012
I think Apple is creating problems for itself by making advertising claims like:
"Every document, every edit, everywhere"
and
"It just works"
Neither of which are true.
Since the latter isn't an advertising claim, that leaves the first and your explanation for why it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Since the latter isn't an advertising claim, that leaves the first and your explanation for why it doesn't.
Really?
http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html
Every document, every edit, everywhere.
Apps make it possible to create amazing presentations, write reports, and more right on your iOS device. You don’t have to manage your documents in a complicated file system or remember to save your work. Your documents are just there, stored in your apps, and ready whenever you need them. And now your apps can store that information in iCloud. Which means you can access your documents — with your latest updates — on whichever device you happen to be using at the time. It all happens automatically, without any effort from you.
http://www.apple.com/icloud/what-is.html
iCloud stores your music, photos, documents, and more and wirelessly pushes them to all your devices. Automatic, effortless, and seamless — it just works.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Really?
http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html
Yes, and I'm waiting for his explanation on why he believes it doesn't.
And I suppose people will be suing over this next:
Anyone can try to make a notebook that’s thin and light. Success comes in doing it without cutting corners. That’s why MacBook Air features a full-size keyboard, not a condensed version of what you’re used to. When you type on the MacBook Air, it’s just as comfortable as typing on a desktop keyboard. And now the keyboard is backlit, so you can type comfortably even in low-light conditions. A built-in sensor detects changes in the ambient lighting and adjusts the keyboard and display brightness automatically, giving you the perfect illumination in any environment.