Do you not realize that Brazil is part of America?
Most people confuse America with the United States, when in reality there is something like 32 countries in America.
I mean no disrespect, I just think that most People get there hopes up when we are promised "bringing jobs back to America" turns out not to be more jobs created in the USA.
Maybe thats because the U. S. official name is The United States of America. I think that other people of other countries would be offended being called america when they have there own national identities and names. Yes all of these countries are part of the continents know as the "Americas" but there is only one that calls itself "The United States of America"
Americans of the South American continent. Nothing wrong with that, but if you are referring to a single country and state America as a singular noun the only reasonable conclusion is that you are from the United States of America.
Yes, if you're in the United States.
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I'll ask again, do you think it's wrong to use United States as if no other country has states that are united? Of course not, you're just being bigoted and xenophobic.
Before you jump into petty name calling because someone stated a differing opinion, I would like to point out I was merely explaining how other cultures use the term "American." It's fine to assume "American" means a citizen of the United States. I too use American to refer to our fellow citizens. It's the common usage here. There's nothing wrong with it.
There is also nothing wrong with other cultures considering themselves "Americans" because they are in Central or South America. That's just how they view things, and if you ever plan to do business internationally, it would be a pertinent thing to know.
There is also nothing wrong with other cultures considering themselves "Americans" because they are in Central or South America. That's just how they view things, and if you ever plan to do business internationally, it would be a pertinent thing to know.
Except that the only 3 countries in "the Americas" that have economies of any note at the moment are US, Canada, and Brazil, so call the other ones whatever you want. But learn how to be polite in Chinese and Hindi.
In the Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America", only very dumb people and extremely ignorant individuals would ever think that the title meant that the movie would be taking place in South America, for example.
Well, gee, I did! I mean Eddie Murphy kinda looks like he's from South America, even though "Murphy" is a fine Irish name. He does speak English with an odd accent; Oh, when I say "English," I'm referring to the language of Great Britain, not just the part called "England." Anyway, Eddie Murphy, it would seem, speaks a language closer to that spoken in the Falklands, which is really part of South America, even though it is somehow connected to England, and more like English as spoken in the U.S..
Actually… the combined Northern, Central and Southern Americas are referred to collectively as "The Americas"… separately they are known as "North America" (comprising the U.S. and Canada), "Central America" (comprising Mexico and numerous countries south to Panama), and "South America" (comprising numerous countries, including Brazil).
No textbooks that I'm aware of refer to the three areas of the Americas collectively in the singular, "America".
The only country commonly referred to generically in the singular as "America" is the United States of America.
Brazil is part of South America, or The Americas…
Are we done splitting hairs now?
no, not quite done splitting hairs.
Mexico is in fact part of North America, along with Canada and the USA. Central America starts at Guatemala extends south to Panama.
Mexico is in fact part of North America, along with Canada and the USA. Central America starts at Guatemala extends south to Panama.
Central America is a non-continental political demarcation. North America is as I previously defined it. Central America is a subsection of North America.
Central America is a non-continental political demarcation. North America is as I previously defined it. Central America is a subsection of North America.
Yep, that's true.
From a continental standpoint, Central America is a subset of the north American continent.
The main point I was making is that when central america is defined separately (as it often is for political reasons or otherwise) it excludes Mexico. It's a common mistake however for folks to include Mexico in this central American grouping.
Peace out from the only country which is also a continent (by some definitions).
[" url="/t/151145/rumor-7-inch-ipad-to-be-produced-in-brazil-for-fall-launch/40#post_2142347"]I thought that this thread would be about iPads and Brazil, but apparently I was wrong. Some jealous people and historical revisionists, quite similar to holocaust deniers and other revisionists, seem to have a problem with the standard definition and the accepted meaning of common words.
If you're not a US citizen, then you are not American, end of story. Too bad for you.
In the Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America", only very dumb people and extremely ignorant individuals would ever think that the title meant that the movie would be taking place in South America, for example.
When Anita in West Side Story sings " I want to be in America!" does anyone ever thinks she means Brazil?
Actually, you don't realize how close you are on this one. Most people spinning the iPad mini rumour mill should realize that there needs to be an iRemote to go with that iVision set. An app driven remote that just happens to be an like iPad mini like device with a simplified iOS app front end for accessing channel apps !!
If you take the position that it is "incorrect" to call people from the United States "Americans," you'd have to be content with saying that it may be ambiguous in certain circumstances, although not in the context in which it was used (we all understood very clearly what was intended,) and so what's the point of the assertion? Who has the final say on how a word can and cannot be used? Aren't we always, in regard to "correctness" forced to defer to the communicability of the concept as arbiter, and in this case the concept was successfully communicated? If you hold that language is subject to strict rules of propriety, in which correctness is achieved by strict adherence to rules, you're authoring a philosophy that is not widely held, much less followed.
If you take the position that it is "offensive" to call people from the United States "Americans" then you're not being very subtle. It is offensive to say, "Mexicans aren't REAL Americans" because the idea itself is offensive, and intended to imply that some subset A is superior to some subset B. The idea that "I live in America" is somehow inherently offensive as well is ridiculous, however. The idea doesn't contain an insult unless you invent one. If any people, even Europeans, wanted to call themselves Americans we wouldn't say they were being offensive, only confusing. Similarly, if any continental Americans wanted to disambiguate themselves as "Americans," the only thing we might accuse them of is disambiguating ineffectively.
The one thing that I don't like about my iPad is that I have to carry a bag of some sort if I want to take it somewhere (at which point I typically just grab my laptop instead). On the flip side, I have the $80 Kindle, which fits in my jean pocket and goes everywhere with me. So if this is portable enough that at the very least you can fit it in a jacket pocket, it would be a big win for me.
My experience is quite different… I used to take a day pack everywhere when I always carried my MBP around, and now I don't. iPad is more like a folio or paper notebook in size… I just carry it in my hand, or tucked under my arm, and most times don't take a bag at all. If I know I'm going to do a lot of extended work and typing, I bring a small shoulder bag that fits the iPad along with my bluetooth keyboard and charger.
I find it much more convenient and pleasant than lugging my laptop and bags...
I'm using an iPad with the original Apple case though (it cover the entire iPad), so it carries conveniently like a folio or a book. I haven't tried this with the newer iPads, using something like the 'smart cover'...
Using NAFTA as the main rationale that Mexico is firmly a part of North America isn't valid IMO… I mean, we have NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) which has member states existing on the eastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea, nowhere near the Atlantic, much less the North Atlantic… so, geographic location isn't always the true measure of a treaty's membership...
As a kid I used to think two ways. Either just North and South America (North+Mexico+Central combined, and South, a valid sub-division, I might add… see linked reference above), or North America (US & Canada), Mexico, Central America (with a vague border on the south side), and South America… That one wasn't exactly correct It never even occurred to me to include Caribbean countries in there...
All this is lost on the original point which has some validity. He was first (sardonically?) hinting that the "corporate overlords" might use the notion of 'bringing jobs back to America" to mollify the masses in the US, and they wouldn't exactly be lying when those jobs actually went to Brazil… tricky bastards!
And, while stating correctly that not EVERYONE in the world uses "American" to exclusively mean "of the United States", most of the world accepts that usage today, and people from the USA certainly do.
Carry on splitting… I've said enough on the matter!
I think you are all missing something. The new iPhone, iPod touch and -- the iPad - could well be 16:9 to compete with the fire. This would make them a larger iPod touch - i.e apps for a retina display could zoom up to this non retina display exactly.
Nope, intentionally left that out of the diagram...if you go 16:9 on all devices the result is usability only in landscape mode. with narrower side bezels as well you result to a landscape only experience. that is a "NO" IMO. look at the difference in the screen aspects between the 11" MBA and the 13" MBA. I wanted the 11" but saw the screen aspect and said N-O.
I'd take the 7.85" (with less bezel as noted by another poster... but I'm sure Ive would make it very attractive). The 6" one would be fine as well. Anything that is smaller than the current iPad in the 6-8 inch range and has iOS (how about in between 6 and 7.85).
well, I have stated in the past that 6.85" is actually 1/2 between 9.7" and 4"(rumored). which would make the 7" iPad rumors more accurately stated.
More and more corroborating rumours for this, and it matches what they did with the iPod. Not very exciting from a technical perspective: probably just the same but smaller, but might be exciting from a marketshare perspective.
The point of my post is to show people that if you are not specific that the government will not be. In the end their ass is covered because per definition they did bring jobs back to "America"
As found on the worlds most popular dictionary. which true it can be edited by most anyone, is believed without question by most American Sheep.
i would post the whole thing, but most people read the first line and run with it anyways. but for those claiming I'm taking it out of context, follow the link.
As for my life and future, I retired at 26 and am set for life.
Yeah, that's right.
"The government" is (collectively?) hiding in a corner, rubbing their hands with glee, saying "We got em fooled now!! We promised to bring jobs back to America, but we didn't say *which* America!! We're totally covered, dudes!!"
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Originally Posted by boriscleto
I'm sure it's news to Mexico that they aren't part of North America. Does that invalidate the North American Free Trade Agreement?
Central America has always consisted of Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama.
I always thought Texas was part of south America. They don't even speak English down there. :-)
Maybe thats because the U. S. official name is The United States of America. I think that other people of other countries would be offended being called america when they have there own national identities and names. Yes all of these countries are part of the continents know as the "Americas" but there is only one that calls itself "The United States of America"
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Americans of the South American continent. Nothing wrong with that, but if you are referring to a single country and state America as a singular noun the only reasonable conclusion is that you are from the United States of America.
Yes, if you're in the United States.
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I'll ask again, do you think it's wrong to use United States as if no other country has states that are united? Of course not, you're just being bigoted and xenophobic.
Before you jump into petty name calling because someone stated a differing opinion, I would like to point out I was merely explaining how other cultures use the term "American." It's fine to assume "American" means a citizen of the United States. I too use American to refer to our fellow citizens. It's the common usage here. There's nothing wrong with it.
There is also nothing wrong with other cultures considering themselves "Americans" because they are in Central or South America. That's just how they view things, and if you ever plan to do business internationally, it would be a pertinent thing to know.
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Originally Posted by Planet Blue
There is also nothing wrong with other cultures considering themselves "Americans" because they are in Central or South America. That's just how they view things, and if you ever plan to do business internationally, it would be a pertinent thing to know.
Except that the only 3 countries in "the Americas" that have economies of any note at the moment are US, Canada, and Brazil, so call the other ones whatever you want. But learn how to be polite in Chinese and Hindi.
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In the Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America", only very dumb people and extremely ignorant individuals would ever think that the title meant that the movie would be taking place in South America, for example.
Well, gee, I did! I mean Eddie Murphy kinda looks like he's from South America, even though "Murphy" is a fine Irish name. He does speak English with an odd accent; Oh, when I say "English," I'm referring to the language of Great Britain, not just the part called "England." Anyway, Eddie Murphy, it would seem, speaks a language closer to that spoken in the Falklands, which is really part of South America, even though it is somehow connected to England, and more like English as spoken in the U.S..
no, not quite done splitting hairs.
Mexico is in fact part of North America, along with Canada and the USA. Central America starts at Guatemala extends south to Panama.
Central America is a non-continental political demarcation. North America is as I previously defined it. Central America is a subsection of North America.
Yep, that's true.
From a continental standpoint, Central America is a subset of the north American continent.
The main point I was making is that when central america is defined separately (as it often is for political reasons or otherwise) it excludes Mexico. It's a common mistake however for folks to include Mexico in this central American grouping.
Peace out from the only country which is also a continent (by some definitions).
When Anita in West Side Story sings " I want to be in America!" does anyone ever thinks she means Brazil?
Actually, you don't realize how close you are on this one. Most people spinning the iPad mini rumour mill should realize that there needs to be an iRemote to go with that iVision set. An app driven remote that just happens to be an like iPad mini like device with a simplified iOS app front end for accessing channel apps !!
In insinuating that someone posting here has Asperger's syndrome, you are.... what? Trying to deride him?
Tread (or thread) carefully...
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Originally Posted by NotScott
In insinuating that someone posting here has Asperger's syndrome, you are.... what? Trying to deride him?
Tread (or thread) carefully...
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Sanest post in this thread.
If you take the position that it is "incorrect" to call people from the United States "Americans," you'd have to be content with saying that it may be ambiguous in certain circumstances, although not in the context in which it was used (we all understood very clearly what was intended,) and so what's the point of the assertion? Who has the final say on how a word can and cannot be used? Aren't we always, in regard to "correctness" forced to defer to the communicability of the concept as arbiter, and in this case the concept was successfully communicated? If you hold that language is subject to strict rules of propriety, in which correctness is achieved by strict adherence to rules, you're authoring a philosophy that is not widely held, much less followed.
If you take the position that it is "offensive" to call people from the United States "Americans" then you're not being very subtle. It is offensive to say, "Mexicans aren't REAL Americans" because the idea itself is offensive, and intended to imply that some subset A is superior to some subset B. The idea that "I live in America" is somehow inherently offensive as well is ridiculous, however. The idea doesn't contain an insult unless you invent one. If any people, even Europeans, wanted to call themselves Americans we wouldn't say they were being offensive, only confusing. Similarly, if any continental Americans wanted to disambiguate themselves as "Americans," the only thing we might accuse them of is disambiguating ineffectively.
Glad I could settle that for you.
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Originally Posted by Drealoth
The one thing that I don't like about my iPad is that I have to carry a bag of some sort if I want to take it somewhere (at which point I typically just grab my laptop instead). On the flip side, I have the $80 Kindle, which fits in my jean pocket and goes everywhere with me. So if this is portable enough that at the very least you can fit it in a jacket pocket, it would be a big win for me.
My experience is quite different… I used to take a day pack everywhere when I always carried my MBP around, and now I don't. iPad is more like a folio or paper notebook in size… I just carry it in my hand, or tucked under my arm, and most times don't take a bag at all. If I know I'm going to do a lot of extended work and typing, I bring a small shoulder bag that fits the iPad along with my bluetooth keyboard and charger.
I find it much more convenient and pleasant than lugging my laptop and bags...
I'm using an iPad with the original Apple case though (it cover the entire iPad), so it carries conveniently like a folio or a book. I haven't tried this with the newer iPads, using something like the 'smart cover'...
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Originally Posted by ameldrum1
no, not quite done splitting hairs.
Mexico is in fact part of North America, along with Canada and the USA. Central America starts at Guatemala extends south to Panama.
We've got to get these split ends under control…
Actually, as I know it there are four common ways to "divide" the Americas, with variations within those...
Here's the one that supports my supposition...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LocationNSAm3.png
Here's the original source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
Using NAFTA as the main rationale that Mexico is firmly a part of North America isn't valid IMO… I mean, we have NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) which has member states existing on the eastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea, nowhere near the Atlantic, much less the North Atlantic… so, geographic location isn't always the true measure of a treaty's membership...
As a kid I used to think two ways. Either just North and South America (North+Mexico+Central combined, and South, a valid sub-division, I might add… see linked reference above), or North America (US & Canada), Mexico, Central America (with a vague border on the south side), and South America… That one wasn't exactly correct
All this is lost on the original point which has some validity. He was first (sardonically?) hinting that the "corporate overlords" might use the notion of 'bringing jobs back to America" to mollify the masses in the US, and they wouldn't exactly be lying when those jobs actually went to Brazil… tricky bastards!
And, while stating correctly that not EVERYONE in the world uses "American" to exclusively mean "of the United States", most of the world accepts that usage today, and people from the USA certainly do.
Carry on splitting… I've said enough on the matter!
It works both ways…
Is there any doubt to the citizens of which country the term "ugly American" refers?
Dictated on my iPad.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
I think you are all missing something. The new iPhone, iPod touch and -- the iPad - could well be 16:9 to compete with the fire. This would make them a larger iPod touch - i.e apps for a retina display could zoom up to this non retina display exactly.
Nope, intentionally left that out of the diagram...if you go 16:9 on all devices the result is usability only in landscape mode. with narrower side bezels as well you result to a landscape only experience. that is a "NO" IMO. look at the difference in the screen aspects between the 11" MBA and the 13" MBA. I wanted the 11" but saw the screen aspect and said N-O.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
I'd take the 7.85" (with less bezel as noted by another poster... but I'm sure Ive would make it very attractive). The 6" one would be fine as well. Anything that is smaller than the current iPad in the 6-8 inch range and has iOS (how about in between 6 and 7.85).
well, I have stated in the past that 6.85" is actually 1/2 between 9.7" and 4"(rumored). which would make the 7" iPad rumors more accurately stated.
More and more corroborating rumours for this, and it matches what they did with the iPod. Not very exciting from a technical perspective: probably just the same but smaller, but might be exciting from a marketshare perspective.
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Originally Posted by Stagrepa
The point of my post is to show people that if you are not specific that the government will not be. In the end their ass is covered because per definition they did bring jobs back to "America"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
The Americas, or America,[2][3] are lands in the Western hemisphere, collectively sometimes considered a single continent, also known as the New World.
As found on the worlds most popular dictionary. which true it can be edited by most anyone, is believed without question by most American Sheep.
i would post the whole thing, but most people read the first line and run with it anyways. but for those claiming I'm taking it out of context, follow the link.
As for my life and future, I retired at 26 and am set for life.
Yeah, that's right.
"The government" is (collectively?) hiding in a corner, rubbing their hands with glee, saying "We got em fooled now!! We promised to bring jobs back to America, but we didn't say *which* America!! We're totally covered, dudes!!"