I guess I'm a little confused. If he's a zombie, why is his post still up? Ban him, do a techstud-wipe from existence and be done with it. Am I missing something?
Something from the other day (I think it was Sunday) confused me. Checking who was logged in I found. . .
Tekstud! Seriously.
How is someone banned still logging in under their username?
Darn tooting if I invented the door knob I would patent it...and any variation I can think of.
Just because it 'seems' easy and obvious does not make it so. Just as an excersize, off the top of your head, can you describe the inner workings of a door latch and how it works?
Yes, this customer had enough of Apple... enough to buy a rMBP and say wow what a computer!
Samsung's designs still copied most everything from Apple. If you look at what they had BEFORE, and then after going into production for the Apple devices, immediately AFTER, then it's a clear case of cloning.
The argument gets trivialized on "patents for rounded corners" -- but really, the interaction with "pads" is obvious, because everyone quickly took the iPhone and iPad interfaces and adopted them.
I would prefer a more open IP system that rewarded innovation, but didn't prevent others adopting things that are fairly obvious, or necessary. But THIS is the system we live under, and if Apple doesn't defend what they developed, they lose it.
And Samsung is just the biggest IP thief around -- why is everyone cheering for them? You'd at least think there might be a desire for a US company to win, if only for provincial reasons.
If companies that innovate don't defend themselves, a manufacturing juggernaut like Samsung can just bury them by mass producing their own designs. Then a market gets killed, and innovation is dead -- Samsung still makes money, and is onto the Next IP opportunity to crush. They make all the stuff we used to, in case nobody noticed.
These lawsuits against Google is nothing. Thermonuclear war is flaming up the antitrust issue on Google. Hopefully, it will receive the same treatment as Microsoft.
Darn tooting if I invented the door knob I would patent it...and any variation I can think of.
Just because it 'seems' easy and obvious does not make it so. Just as an excersize, off the top of your head, can you describe the inner workings of a door latch and how it works?
Yes, this customer had enough of Apple... enough to buy a rMBP and say wow what a computer!
Me too! That's why I sold my iPod touch, 2 apple TVs and time capsule on eBay and bought a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7; all I have left is an imac!
The argument gets trivialized on "patents for rounded corners" -- but really, the interaction with "pads" is obvious, because everyone quickly took the iPhone and iPad interfaces and adopted them.
Interaction? You mean something as simple as touching the screen which results in some sort of action? Wow I'm impressed.
Interface? You mean a bunch of icons representing different apps spread around evenly on a flat touchscreen surface?
So, before the iPhone there were no icons, no touchscreens, no applications, no smartphones???
Aha all these things existed even before.
So does that mean Apple copied and put all of these features into iPhone and later iPad?
in other words you're simply shouting off random sound bites with no actual way to back anything up.
All you needed to say.
Actually, no.
I just have insanely good time management skills that recognise when it's worth debating a point with somebody who may actually recognise alternative viewpoints, and somebody who couldn't do that if they tried.
It's about time Apple went after the main nemesis Google. Google really did copy a lot from ios with Android 4.1, it adds fluidity and more of a buttery smooth experience which copies ios 6, among other things. Google needs to learn a valuable lesson that it can't blatantly copy Apples intellectual property and patents.
It's great that you have a preference for Android and the "HW" it offers. No one reasonable would deny you your opinion of what you like better, but your reasons regarding HW don't sound rational. You'll have to be specific about the variety of "HW" if you want your comment to be taken seriously.
rational ? reason or understanding ? It's just my opinion and likes/dislikes but.....
I am referring more to the physical characteristics of the hardware eg. screen size, physical dimension choices, ability to add/remove external storage, battery replacement etc. That kind of stuff.
It's about time Apple went after the main nemesis Google. Google really did copy a lot from ios with Android 4.1, it adds fluidity and more of a buttery smooth experience which copies ios 6, among other things.
The patent for "smooth" quite plainly belongs to Samsung, not Apple.
It's about time Apple went after the main nemesis Google. Google really did copy a lot from ios with Android 4.1, it adds fluidity and more of a buttery smooth experience which copies ios 6, among other things. Google needs to learn a valuable lesson that it can't blatantly copy Apples intellectual property and patents.
You can't "copy" smoothness...
Apple doesn't have a patent on "smoothness and fluidity"
I sincerenly hope you're joking.
Next you're going to tell me that Google copied the Notification Shade from Apple's Notification Center.
I just have insanely good time management skills that recognise when it's worth debating a point with somebody who may actually recognise alternative viewpoints, and somebody who couldn't do that if they tried.
How are things in the hospital?
So Ad hominem is your response?
cute.
I've asked repeatedly for anyone to tell me anything Android specifically copied from iOS that initially belonged to Apple that is not in wide usage elsewhere.
"heuristics for a heuristic motion at 1mm from edge of screen herp derp." is what a majority of these lawsuits are about. Look and feel is Samsung's game....
so Android 1.0 - 4.2 what aspects of iOS 1.0 - 6.0 have been copied obviously and wholesale?
I'm talking features as obvious as the notification center.
Apple doesn't have a patent on "smoothness and fluidity"
I sincerenly hope you're joking.
Next you're going to tell me that Google copied the Notification Shade from Apple's Notification Center.
In essence you can because iOS1 to ios 6 have always had a buttery smooth, and fluid user experience while all of a sudden Android 4.1 contains project butter that blatantly copies ios in terms of fluidity. I think Apple has a point here to go after Android 4.1 to try in there best interests to remove project butter and revert back to Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
I guess I'm a little confused. If he's a zombie, why is his post still up? Ban him, do a techstud-wipe from existence and be done with it. Am I missing something?
Something from the other day (I think it was Sunday) confused me. Checking who was logged in I found. . .
Tekstud! Seriously.
How is someone banned still logging in under their username?
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Originally Posted by boeyc15
Darn tooting if I invented the door knob I would patent it...and any variation I can think of.
Just because it 'seems' easy and obvious does not make it so. Just as an excersize, off the top of your head, can you describe the inner workings of a door latch and how it works?
Yes, this customer had enough of Apple... enough to buy a rMBP and say wow what a computer!
Samsung's designs still copied most everything from Apple. If you look at what they had BEFORE, and then after going into production for the Apple devices, immediately AFTER, then it's a clear case of cloning.
The argument gets trivialized on "patents for rounded corners" -- but really, the interaction with "pads" is obvious, because everyone quickly took the iPhone and iPad interfaces and adopted them.
I would prefer a more open IP system that rewarded innovation, but didn't prevent others adopting things that are fairly obvious, or necessary. But THIS is the system we live under, and if Apple doesn't defend what they developed, they lose it.
And Samsung is just the biggest IP thief around -- why is everyone cheering for them? You'd at least think there might be a desire for a US company to win, if only for provincial reasons.
If companies that innovate don't defend themselves, a manufacturing juggernaut like Samsung can just bury them by mass producing their own designs. Then a market gets killed, and innovation is dead -- Samsung still makes money, and is onto the Next IP opportunity to crush. They make all the stuff we used to, in case nobody noticed.
These lawsuits against Google is nothing. Thermonuclear war is flaming up the antitrust issue on Google. Hopefully, it will receive the same treatment as Microsoft.
This is no different than every other company. Samsung, Moto etc have sued Apple as much as Apple has sued them.
And Apple has a right to protect their IP, especially nonSEP that they are not legally bound to license that has been violated
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Originally Posted by PatrickApple
Give it a break Apple. Enough already with the petty lawsuits. If you invented the door knob, you'd want to patent it. Even your customers had enough.
I'm both a customer and a stockholder, and no way have I had enough. Speak for yourself but not for the rest of us!
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Something from the other day (I think it was Sunday) confused me. Checking who was logged in I found. . .
Tekstud! Seriously.
How is someone banned still logging in under their username?
Yeah, conradjoe and zzz, too. LOL sounds like the forum script isn't done baking yet.
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Originally Posted by PatrickApple
Give it a break Apple. Enough already with the petty lawsuits. If you invented the door knob, you'd want to patent it. Even your customers had enough.
Right on! Even customers agree: Apple should please YOU by allowing competitors to copy everything.
EVERYTHING. FOR FREE. WE INVENT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO. FREE DOOR KNOBS FOR ALL.
Me too! That's why I sold my iPod touch, 2 apple TVs and time capsule on eBay and bought a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7; all I have left is an imac!
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Originally Posted by Fake_William_Shatner
The argument gets trivialized on "patents for rounded corners" -- but really, the interaction with "pads" is obvious, because everyone quickly took the iPhone and iPad interfaces and adopted them.
Interaction? You mean something as simple as touching the screen which results in some sort of action? Wow I'm impressed.
Interface? You mean a bunch of icons representing different apps spread around evenly on a flat touchscreen surface?
So, before the iPhone there were no icons, no touchscreens, no applications, no smartphones???
Aha all these things existed even before.
So does that mean Apple copied and put all of these features into iPhone and later iPad?
Of course.
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Originally Posted by PatrickApple
Give it a break Apple. Enough already with the petty lawsuits.
Which "petty" lawsuits are you referring to and what do they have to do with this story?
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Originally Posted by jingers
all I have left is an imac!
Whatcha waitin' for?
in other words you're simply shouting off random sound bites with no actual way to back anything up.
All you needed to say.
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz
in other words you're simply shouting off random sound bites with no actual way to back anything up.
All you needed to say.
Actually, no.
I just have insanely good time management skills that recognise when it's worth debating a point with somebody who may actually recognise alternative viewpoints, and somebody who couldn't do that if they tried.
How are things in the hospital?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
It's great that you have a preference for Android and the "HW" it offers. No one reasonable would deny you your opinion of what you like better, but your reasons regarding HW don't sound rational. You'll have to be specific about the variety of "HW" if you want your comment to be taken seriously.
rational ? reason or understanding ? It's just my opinion and likes/dislikes but.....
I am referring more to the physical characteristics of the hardware eg. screen size, physical dimension choices, ability to add/remove external storage, battery replacement etc. That kind of stuff.
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Originally Posted by quest01
It's about time Apple went after the main nemesis Google. Google really did copy a lot from ios with Android 4.1, it adds fluidity and more of a buttery smooth experience which copies ios 6, among other things.
The patent for "smooth" quite plainly belongs to Samsung, not Apple.
You can't "copy" smoothness...
Apple doesn't have a patent on "smoothness and fluidity"
I sincerenly hope you're joking.
Next you're going to tell me that Google copied the Notification Shade from Apple's Notification Center.
So Ad hominem is your response?
cute.
I've asked repeatedly for anyone to tell me anything Android specifically copied from iOS that initially belonged to Apple that is not in wide usage elsewhere.
"heuristics for a heuristic motion at 1mm from edge of screen herp derp." is what a majority of these lawsuits are about. Look and feel is Samsung's game....
so Android 1.0 - 4.2 what aspects of iOS 1.0 - 6.0 have been copied obviously and wholesale?
I'm talking features as obvious as the notification center.
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Originally Posted by quest01
Google really did copy a lot from ios with Android 4.1, it adds fluidity and more of a buttery smooth experience which copies ios 6
I hope that's a sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz
You can't "copy" smoothness...
Apple doesn't have a patent on "smoothness and fluidity"
I sincerenly hope you're joking.
Next you're going to tell me that Google copied the Notification Shade from Apple's Notification Center.
In essence you can because iOS1 to ios 6 have always had a buttery smooth, and fluid user experience while all of a sudden Android 4.1 contains project butter that blatantly copies ios in terms of fluidity. I think Apple has a point here to go after Android 4.1 to try in there best interests to remove project butter and revert back to Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.