Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
It's sure that from a design pov, Apple has nothing to fear, since all those new designs are clearly inspired by it. I'm just waiting to see the next GS4 that'll probably have that three parts back.
You forgot to add that these aren't claims made by Apple, but by many a poster.
That was my point. He made a Apple fanboy statement, and I countered with previous Apple fanboy comments with regards to features that Apple phones didn't have at the time (compared to the competition), but later arrived.
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Spec-swinging. It's like what, the second phone that is 1080p? Is it worth sacrificing something like frame rate for something that's of negligible visual improvement? For best user experience, it's better to to straggle the pack than keep up with a spec of dubious value.
The upcoming Galaxy S IV will likely have a 1080p display (actually, it's pretty much a given), and it's the smartphone that most directly competes with the iPhone as far as sales go. Other 1080p smartphones that have been announced:
Sony Xperia Z and Xperia ZL
Lenovo K900
LG Optimus Pro
Huawei Ascend D2
HTC Butterfly
ZTE Grand S
I just find it sad that people will bitch about advancing the technology in products we use everyday.
Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
... and Apple is losing sales to these phones. So you are saying that Apple doesn't want those sales?
I like the speakers. Wonder how they sound in reality. Also, I wonder how good the speakerphone quality is. After all, it's still a phone. And I agree with the other comments about the power requirements of the processor. How long will the battery last? Inquiring minds want to know.
#1. That you can't see that it is a nice looking phone does not surprise me.
#2. Spec whores? This phone has more going for it than just specs. Refer to #1.
Sure, its nice looking but how pretty it is isn't everything. People aren't necessarily buying a phone just because it looks nice. You focus on all the wrong things.
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
... and Apple is losing sales to these phones. So you are saying that Apple doesn't want those sales?
Judging on Apple's last quarter sales, they aren't losing much. Apple can't be everything to everyone and the day it starts trying to be is the day it begins its slow death.
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
And lets not forget about all the quality Android apps out there. /sarcasm
I just find it sad that people will bitch about advancing the technology in products we use everyday.
No, this one is clearly for spec lemmings.
I'm not convinced you understand this is beyond most people's ability to see, without any benefits for doing so. It's not a useful advance if no one can see the difference without a magnifying glass.
Sure, its nice looking but how pretty it is isn't everything. People aren't necessarily buying a phone just because it looks nice. You focus on all the wrong things.
You'd be surprised how many people do indeed buy a phone because of it's looks.
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
Getting rid of the home button is the stupidest thing Apple could do. It's the MOST ICONIC part of their devices, and more importantly, the home button serves an extremely important function for the non-technically inclined- they KNOW that wherever the hell they are, it's an exist button that will get back to the home screen. Android has no equivalent, obvious, intuitive mechanism like that.
I'm not going to fight with all of you, nor will I convince anyone on this forum. All I can say is give Android a try if you are curious. Its way more capable than what you imagine a phone can do. I use a Nexus 4, it doesn't have the latest specs but it has the best software. Find someone with a Nexus so you can see how Google Now personalizes its results.
Looks good. I'd prefer it with stock Android, and not the Sense UI crapped baked on though -- but I'm sure that the enthusiast community will have an answer for that quickly.
I've been with Apple since the iPhone 3GS (I've since bought a 4, 4S, 5, and countless other Apple devices), but I may consider jumping ship for a large screen 1080p Android phone if Apple doesn't answer with their own.
You watch 1080p video on the screen this small? How far your phone from your eyes? 3 inches?
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Originally Posted by island hermit
It definitely ups the ante.
Apple, are you listening.
Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
It's sure that from a design pov, Apple has nothing to fear, since all those new designs are clearly inspired by it. I'm just waiting to see the next GS4 that'll probably have that three parts back.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
You forgot to add that these aren't claims made by Apple, but by many a poster.
That was my point. He made a Apple fanboy statement, and I countered with previous Apple fanboy comments with regards to features that Apple phones didn't have at the time (compared to the competition), but later arrived.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Spec-swinging. It's like what, the second phone that is 1080p? Is it worth sacrificing something like frame rate for something that's of negligible visual improvement? For best user experience, it's better to to straggle the pack than keep up with a spec of dubious value.
The upcoming Galaxy S IV will likely have a 1080p display (actually, it's pretty much a given), and it's the smartphone that most directly competes with the iPhone as far as sales go. Other 1080p smartphones that have been announced:
Sony Xperia Z and Xperia ZL
Lenovo K900
LG Optimus Pro
Huawei Ascend D2
HTC Butterfly
ZTE Grand S
I just find it sad that people will bitch about advancing the technology in products we use everyday.
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Originally Posted by macxpress
Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
... and Apple is losing sales to these phones. So you are saying that Apple doesn't want those sales?
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Originally Posted by island hermit
#1. That you can't see that it is a nice looking phone does not surprise me.
#2. Spec whores? This phone has more going for it than just specs. Refer to #1.
Sure, its nice looking but how pretty it is isn't everything. People aren't necessarily buying a phone just because it looks nice. You focus on all the wrong things.
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
... and Apple is losing sales to these phones. So you are saying that Apple doesn't want those sales?
Judging on Apple's last quarter sales, they aren't losing much. Apple can't be everything to everyone and the day it starts trying to be is the day it begins its slow death.
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Originally Posted by ecpho
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
And lets not forget about all the quality Android apps out there. /sarcasm
what's wrong with them? I have no trouble finding what I need. just use your brain when downloading something and it's all ok.
File Expert and Airdroid are 2 great apps iOS will never have - and of course Google Now is amazing.
Plus I do not have to use iTunes anymore.
No, this one is clearly for spec lemmings.
I'm not convinced you understand this is beyond most people's ability to see, without any benefits for doing so. It's not a useful advance if no one can see the difference without a magnifying glass.
So is this a Galaxy S4 killer?
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Originally Posted by ecpho
what's wrong with them? I have no trouble finding what I need. just use your brain when downloading something and it's all ok.
File Expert and Airdroid are 2 great apps iOS will never have - and of course Google Now is amazing.
Plus I do not have to use iTunes anymore.
Well la-te-da...You found 2 great apps for Android. Yay! Nobody has to use iTunes anymore. iPhones aren't tied to iTunes.
You'd be surprised how many people do indeed buy a phone because of it's looks.
Don't Androids have a home button? I guess you like the soft keys. Those remind me of my old flip phone.
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Originally Posted by ecpho
has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
Getting rid of the home button is the stupidest thing Apple could do. It's the MOST ICONIC part of their devices, and more importantly, the home button serves an extremely important function for the non-technically inclined- they KNOW that wherever the hell they are, it's an exist button that will get back to the home screen. Android has no equivalent, obvious, intuitive mechanism like that.
I'm not going to fight with all of you, nor will I convince anyone on this forum. All I can say is give Android a try if you are curious. Its way more capable than what you imagine a phone can do. I use a Nexus 4, it doesn't have the latest specs but it has the best software. Find someone with a Nexus so you can see how Google Now personalizes its results.
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s
Looks good. I'd prefer it with stock Android, and not the Sense UI crapped baked on though -- but I'm sure that the enthusiast community will have an answer for that quickly.
I've been with Apple since the iPhone 3GS (I've since bought a 4, 4S, 5, and countless other Apple devices), but I may consider jumping ship for a large screen 1080p Android phone if Apple doesn't answer with their own.
You watch 1080p video on the screen this small? How far your phone from your eyes? 3 inches?
-Slurpy
my point is that iOS users need that reassuring home button more than others.