Exactly. Made me think back to the whole OS2 issue Microsoft had with IBM wanting to pay for KLOCs (thousand lines of code) and Microsoft saying fewer lines is better. Here they are now touting a number that meaningless as the extra transistors may just mean bad design. It certainly doesn't make me think about power efficiency.
How exactly is being able to put more transistors into a smaller or similar size die "bad design"? Your statement about how it doesn't make you think about power efficiency is equally baffling. The shrinking of the transistors means that you can lower the voltage and decrease power consumption while still gaining in performance. So it's far more efficient in performance/watt especially since it's pretty much guaranteed that the CPU die will be either equal in size or smaller than the 360 as well.
Sorry, saying 5 billion transistors doesn't mean they shrunk anything. All other things being equal, having a higher transistor count negatively affects power consumption. I didn't read how many chips makeup the 5 billion total either, but the impression from the wording was that it was the entire system (however many that is). The stat by itself is meaningless.
When Apple realized they were more than a computer company, they changed their name to just Apple. Now, with the failure of Windows 8, and with their focus on new hardware (Mobile Phones, Surface, XBox), as well as considering their shrinking popularity and fortunes, perhaps they should change their name to just: Micro.
I don't follow. If the device has an HDMI passthrough then it can be always connected and ready to overlay on your cable/sat feed or take over completely with a touch of a button. This is what I've been saying Apple should have done with the Apple TV from day one to specifically avoid being an ignored device that requires an input change on the monitor before it can be utilized.
My point was simply that the Xbox One would need to partner with the cable/satellite companies if they want to make the streaming video more viable. I was thinking along the lines of how the providers situate their iPad apps with the streaming feeds coming through the internet, rather than the cable or satellite feeds. I don't get the impression that the Xbox One will try to integrate any program guide functions with cable/satellite service.
this all begs the question: who wants to do all that fancy shit on their big screen TV?
the future is about simple and easy.
These guys keep missing the boat.. A bunch of dumb little gimmicky features, isn't fooling the majority of
Buyers anymore. They burnt that bridge like 500 times. People want simple, quality products. It's hard to imagine that the original wii has had this much of an influence on Sony and Microsoft. The wii had a great idea, it wasn't going to revolutionize anything, it was a niche. It's amazing how Microsoft and Sony failed to realize that.. Ditch the wave your hands at the television to change the channel BS and put all that energy into amazing graphics, and a new modern game franchise
It doesn't, it is also not available everywhere in the U.S. I don't know what their plans are for live TV in other places.
If FiOS is not in your area, it ain't coming anytime soon. Verizon announced a while ago that they would concentrate on building out the networks in the regions that they already serve, and not bother with expanding into areas that they don't serve.
....I'm sorry, but is there a massive amount of people desperate to play games and watch live TV simultaneously with a split screen, or watch TV and skype? .....
That....along with the ability to watch a movie and text at the same time on a Galaxy IV will cause ADHD to become the most prominently diagnosed syndrome.
If FiOS is not in your area, it ain't coming anytime soon. Verizon announced a while ago that they would concentrate on building out the networks in the regions that they already serve, and not bother with expanding into areas that they don't serve.
They're not building out even in areas they do serve.
So what? Who spends all day looking at their game console? It's probably tucked out of the way some where.
In some ways, this is what Apple TV should have been. Apple was positioned to do the "one box to control them all" game a long time ago, but fell short. With only minor modifications, Apple TV could have been the center of your entertainment system and done all the things that XBox 1 does (gaming, music, movies, TV, Internet, etc).
It's not a bad product in concept. It will be interesting to see how well they've actually met their goals.
If the actual product and games meet the expectations they set in the presentation I watched today, it'll basically change the console business (IE kill everyone else) in one swoop. Video conferencing -Ala Skype, motion control, Cable box integration, Voice Control, Blue Ray etc.. It quite simply will leave everyone in the dust. The graphics they demoed the new version of Call of Duty were simply amazing. The thing isn't a gaming console, it's a PC that acts like a gaming console when you want to game. Their goal has been to to take over the living room, they may have just done that.
That said I stress IF they meet the expectations they set in the demo.
Just watched the entire presentation. I'm sorry, but is there a massive amount of people desperate to play games and watch live TV simultaneously with a split screen, or watch TV and skype? It just seems a very small percentage of people would be even mildly interested in this. The voice control looks cool. Games wise, all we saw are graphical updates to existing franchises. The console also looks like an ugly HTPC that one can build from newegg, also looks massive. It also doesn't seem to me like the market for people who will buy an xbox are the ones that will be watching live tv.
I agree, but suspect that adding the split screen was an afterthought. It's not really the big selling feature.
It's really all about unification of all the sources that feed your TV into a single box. The rest is just fluff.
If it can handle it, maybe XBox 4k. But that might lead to people thinking it's not for them if they don't have 4kTV.
Or maybe XBox Unity.
XBox Unity would have been OK, but I don't think names carry the weight that they used to. XBox 1 is just strange, though. Is this the 3rd version or 4th?
I agree, but suspect that adding the split screen was an afterthought. It's not really the big selling feature.
It's really all about unification of all the sources that feed your TV into a single box. The rest is just fluff.
XBox Unity would have been OK, but I don't think names carry the weight that they used to. XBox 1 is just strange, though. Is this the 3rd version or 4th?
It'll be the 3rd. Maybe it stands for all in 1? 1 device for all your needs. Not being backwards compatible might be a problem though.
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LOL. Seven years is about the span between console generations. Meanwhile, Macs and iPads get annual spec bumps...
Sorry, saying 5 billion transistors doesn't mean they shrunk anything. All other things being equal, having a higher transistor count negatively affects power consumption. I didn't read how many chips makeup the 5 billion total either, but the impression from the wording was that it was the entire system (however many that is). The stat by itself is meaningless.
Reminds me of the movie "That Thing You Do" when the musical group first called themselves "The Oneders"...
Ahhhh, Schadenfreude.
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Huh?!
Fugly
To quote you, "citation needed"
Actually I'll save you the work. It's under 10% now.
http://www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
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I don't follow. If the device has an HDMI passthrough then it can be always connected and ready to overlay on your cable/sat feed or take over completely with a touch of a button. This is what I've been saying Apple should have done with the Apple TV from day one to specifically avoid being an ignored device that requires an input change on the monitor before it can be utilized.
My point was simply that the Xbox One would need to partner with the cable/satellite companies if they want to make the streaming video more viable. I was thinking along the lines of how the providers situate their iPad apps with the streaming feeds coming through the internet, rather than the cable or satellite feeds. I don't get the impression that the Xbox One will try to integrate any program guide functions with cable/satellite service.
Buyers anymore. They burnt that bridge like 500 times. People want simple, quality products. It's hard to imagine that the original wii has had this much of an influence on Sony and Microsoft. The wii had a great idea, it wasn't going to revolutionize anything, it was a niche. It's amazing how Microsoft and Sony failed to realize that.. Ditch the wave your hands at the television to change the channel BS and put all that energy into amazing graphics, and a new modern game franchise
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So then why mention Apple at all if you weren't trying to make it out as a win for them?
Uh, this is an Apple board, right? And Blu-ray licensors include more than just Sony, right? Take a deep breath, the world is not as bad as you think.
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It doesn't, it is also not available everywhere in the U.S. I don't know what their plans are for live TV in other places.
If FiOS is not in your area, it ain't coming anytime soon. Verizon announced a while ago that they would concentrate on building out the networks in the regions that they already serve, and not bother with expanding into areas that they don't serve.
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....I'm sorry, but is there a massive amount of people desperate to play games and watch live TV simultaneously with a split screen, or watch TV and skype? .....
That....along with the ability to watch a movie and text at the same time on a Galaxy IV will cause ADHD to become the most prominently diagnosed syndrome.
welllllllllllll.... Is there comment
Mine is that the first to Xbox were betas
(0.1,0.36) well I guess they treat customers like that!
I can enjoy a simular experience with a MacBook and airplay it sounds.
They're not building out even in areas they do serve.
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So what? Who spends all day looking at their game console? It's probably tucked out of the way some where.
In some ways, this is what Apple TV should have been. Apple was positioned to do the "one box to control them all" game a long time ago, but fell short. With only minor modifications, Apple TV could have been the center of your entertainment system and done all the things that XBox 1 does (gaming, music, movies, TV, Internet, etc).
It's not a bad product in concept. It will be interesting to see how well they've actually met their goals.
If the actual product and games meet the expectations they set in the presentation I watched today, it'll basically change the console business (IE kill everyone else) in one swoop. Video conferencing -Ala Skype, motion control, Cable box integration, Voice Control, Blue Ray etc.. It quite simply will leave everyone in the dust. The graphics they demoed the new version of Call of Duty were simply amazing. The thing isn't a gaming console, it's a PC that acts like a gaming console when you want to game. Their goal has been to to take over the living room, they may have just done that.
That said I stress IF they meet the expectations they set in the demo.
I agree, but suspect that adding the split screen was an afterthought. It's not really the big selling feature.
It's really all about unification of all the sources that feed your TV into a single box. The rest is just fluff.
XBox Unity would have been OK, but I don't think names carry the weight that they used to. XBox 1 is just strange, though. Is this the 3rd version or 4th?
It'll be the 3rd. Maybe it stands for all in 1? 1 device for all your needs. Not being backwards compatible might be a problem though.