Google's new Nexus 7 gets stellar reviews despite faults, jitters, lagging apps

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  • Reply 21 of 190
    baederbaeder Posts: 25member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    :???: Music is one of those things that isn't an issue to the best of my knowledge. Google All-Access is pretty well done IMO. I particularly like the access to specific songs and/or artists and finding that even your "thumbs-up" selections can be turned into you own radio station was a nice find. That $8/mo I pay (I believe it's $10 for new users now) for streaming to a smartphone, tablet, computer or even HDTV is hard to beat value-wise. Excellent audio quality too.

    I think he was talking about more than just listening to music!!!!
  • Reply 22 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,256member
    baeder wrote: »
    I think he was talking about more than just listening to music!!!!

    Yeah I mentioned that several minutes before you posted. Thanks tho.
  • Reply 23 of 190
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    This may come across as being a complete A-Hole... but I've decided to do something rather naughty of late: I'm pushing cheap Android crap like the Nexus 7.

    IMPORTANT!: when people are asking my advice, I always recommend an Apple first if they don't want to see my ugly mug again for awhile. And I mean push it hard!

    However, the trend here in Germany is that anyone carrying Apple stuff is a "penny foolish fanboy". The "fanboy" part I thoroughly admit to. Penny-Foolish I am not(!)

    So... I let them know that it "very well could be" that they need to have me take a look at their "far less expensive but capable (crap)" more often. My minimum visit fee is €20, with the average of a clean wipe and reinstall about €95,00. BTW: these people are immune to that old price trick, since for example, 99.99 is no where CLOSE to 100.00. Anyway, wipe and reinstall is the "preferred and recommended" advise straight from Google's forums. Quite similar I might add to Microsoft's over the years. Why would silly Moi second guess Google???

    Long story short: I get paid close to €200.00/year from people on Android devices. I make squat on iOS devices (set it and forget it).

    So truthfully, I really should be a Google fan for them skimping and pimping their devices at cost and allowing me to make some "play dough" for my Apple addiction.

    As always... telling the truth... and just sayin'...:smokey:
  • Reply 24 of 190

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    Yeah I mentioned that several minutes before you posted. Thanks tho.


    melior diabolus quem scies


    "No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012



    Is this Jragosta same as the guy who is commenting here?


    Just curious. image Dont mind. 

  • Reply 25 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,256member
    chandra69 wrote: »
    Is this Jragosta same as the guy who is commenting here?
    Just curious. <img alt="1embarassed.gif" id="user_yui_3_10_0_1_1376485836286_1409" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies/1embarassed.gif" style="line-height:1.231;" name="user_yui_3_10_0_1_1376485836286_1409">
    <span style="line-height:1.231;"> Dont mind. </span>

    Yes and he had excellent advice don't you agree? He oft-times appears to be knowledgeable and offer good suggestions.
  • Reply 26 of 190

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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    Yes and he had excellent advice don't you agree? He oft-times appears to be knowledgeable and offer good suggestions.


    I really cant tell because you all guys have been here on this forums since a long time.


    But, I am not.


    So, I dont know the context and situation when and why he told that. 


    But the statement sounds good. And having argument and being part of the argument is good.  image


     


    For me, this fellow sounds better always image

  • Reply 27 of 190
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Yeah, I just realized he must be referring to music creation and not listening. I'm no musician myself, but it doesn't look like you can't create music on an Android device. I personally can't speak for how well it does as I've never tried it nor even wanted too.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imageline.FLM
    or
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.aemobile

    It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

    But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.
  • Reply 28 of 190

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post





    It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.



    But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.

  • Reply 29 of 190
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,256member
    jragosta wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with whether there are apps to create music or not. Latency on Android makes it extremely difficult - if not impossible.

    But given your admission that you don't know anything about technology (see my signature), it's not surprising that you don't know the difference.

    So then you've actually tried some of the Android music apps for yourself, or rather you read someone's comment recently that said it was extremely difficult if not impossible to create music on any Android device. Those two music apps I linked seem to get good reviews. Curious, do you write music? I seem to remember you commenting once upon a time that you were a musician of sorts.

    Edit: Were you attempting to be rude? I would hope not. I'd much rather see and take part in civil discussion and have no intention of replying in kind.
  • Reply 30 of 190
    rogifan wrote: »
    Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. A secondary reason is the first generation was so bad it would be damn near impossible for the second gen not to be an improvement.

    This is why Apple needs a retina mini this fall. Get a retina mini out there and nobody but a few rabid Fandroids will care about the Nexus 7 anymore. :D
    Retina mini after full size, so the mini doesn't canabalizes new iPad 5 again...for awhile
  • Reply 31 of 190
    neilmneilm Posts: 915member

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    Seems the new Nexus 7 got great reviews for mainly one reason: the retina like display. image


     


    No — that and its very attractive price. If you weigh those against the iPad Mini's bigger (but lower res) screen, smoother operation, and the much superior iOS tablet app availability, you've probably got equal scores but for different reasons. Apple's build quality is better, but that of the Nexus 7 certainly isn't bad.


     


    For owners who mostly use a tablet passively (web surf, email, read books, watch videos), the Nexus 7 is no bad choice. Once you want it to do more, the quality of the app experience comes to play a more important part, and the iPad looks more and more attractive.


     


    Apple badly needs a retina iPad Mini, and that's obviously going to happen — soon, I hope. But since Google is selling the Nexus 7 at cost, any future retina iPad Mini is going to be sold at a significant premium over the Android product. Apple should be able to do just fine with that, especially once iOS 7 kicks in, but the competing Google tablet isn't going to just disappear. It's a perfectly viable tablet.

  • Reply 32 of 190

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    Originally Posted by Everett Ruess View Post





    Retina mini after full size, so the mini doesn't canabalizes new iPad 5 again...for awhile


    Say what?

  • Reply 34 of 190

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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Amiga Syndrome: cheap hardware with notable features but a dearth of quality apps.

     


     


     


    I have to disagree with the above statement. I'm a bit of an Amiga fan and the one thing I can say for sure is that those systems were neither cheap nor lacking in quality software. Some of the industry's best games and production apps (Cinema4D, Lightwave, Video Toaster etc) were introduced with the Amiga. I also find the comparison between the Amiga and Crapdroid rather unfortunate.


     


    When the Commodore Amiga was released in 1985 it was hands down the best computer system on the planet. The OCS chipset was a multimedia powerhouse with capabilities unmatched by even the purpose built workstations. Software wise, the Amiga OS was the first to introduce preemptive multitasking which made all competing systems seem like a decade out of date, including the Mac.It is rumored that Steve Jobs was so taken by the amazing capabilities of the Amiga that he attempted to buy it off Commodore and use it as a basis for his NEXT platform.


     


    A properly expanded Amiga 4000 is still considered a very capable multimedia production tool and many TV stations and Production Studios use the Video Toaster 4000 system even today!


     


    The demise of the Amiga lies entirely on the awful business decisions of the Commodore leadership and certainly not its competition...

  • Reply 35 of 190
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,878member
    d4njvrzf wrote: »

    You're right, no one is perfect but when it comes to Apple, the media turns the mole hill into a mountain and barely registers others.
  • Reply 36 of 190
    murmanmurman Posts: 159member


    Its front face is ugly, the top black bar within the screen UI and the bottom black bar screws up the proportions, the side bezel is quite fat too. Not much attention to detail, I don't think they care about such things. Cheap, try to take market share from Apple, end. Not even a "be durable", if can't hold up for one year, that is really bad.

  • Reply 37 of 190
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member


    Fandroids rarely use apps and never pay for them- only use their devices for texting, email and facebook. And it's a lot cheaper. It will do extremely well. 


     


    MIni needs retina now- no excuse. It's not as if it's a new innovating feature at this point in time. The current mini is way overpriced.now- should be at least $100 less across the board but it should drop to that price level once retina is released. 

  • Reply 38 of 190
    d4njvrzfd4njvrzf Posts: 797member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post





    You're right, no one is perfect but when it comes to Apple, the media turns the mole hill into a mountain and barely registers others.


    Yet did those issues prevent Apple products from getting "stellar reviews"? The article claims that the nexus 7 is getting favorable treatment in the press despite users reporting various problems. Aren't apple products received similarly by the public?

  • Reply 39 of 190
    Or you could buy a 32GB ad-free Kindle Fire HD for $204.

    Let's see, what does that extra $25 for the Google Doorstop 2.0 gain you?

    - Faster CPU & GPU (to make those lags and jitters more glaring, apparently)
    - 1080p screen (because 720p simply doesn't cut it on a 7" screen)
    - GPS (*sometimes)
    - Rear-facing camera (so you can embarrass yourself by taking pictures with your tablet)
    - 16 GB less storage
    - Worse battery life
    - No hardware QA
    - Months to fix critical OS bugs
    - "Best in industry" customer support replaced by "laughable"
    - Uncurated app store (since viruses and malware enrich the experience)

    Oh yeah, I'm sure that Jeff Bezos is worried about this one.

  • Reply 40 of 190
    Lol....
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