ugh ... Hair loss and tattoo removal ... you actually are comparing those two items?
Gee, are tattoos a genetic trait?
Life is hard, it's even harder if you are stupid. If you want to desecrate your body with "art" that will look like grease stains in a few years, that is indeed your "problem". You can spend $50 getting a butterfly that will look like a moth in just a few years ... then you can spend $500 and a great deal of pain paying a surgeon with a laser to burn it off. Some would call this "stupid" ... you may call it whatever you wish.
My statement stands ... I have never seen a tattoo that makes me think MORE of someone for having it.
There is a reason you see losers with tattoos (ex-cons, felons, unemployable parasites, gang members, thugs, bikers, high school drop-outs who are trying to look tough ....). They have no respect for themselves, their bodies; and are vandalizing their bodies in an attempt to persuade others that they are worthwhile.
That's probably why your parents tried to teach you NOT to get a tattoo when you were a kid. Truth hurts.
all we are saying is dont be surprised if a product that reads your skin does not work.
Sorry Sog... there are quite a few posts from established forum members (not the usual trolls and haters) that are contrary to what you just wrote. I too was rather surprised at how some of them were mouthing-off their opinions on body art. Quite a few are (pre)judging.
With luck there will be lots of returns and then the rest of us can receive our watches 2 weeks earlier /S
I learned the other day when speaking with my Apple Business Rep that when stuff gets returned it does not go on sale again except if they use their eBay channel. Refurbished devices are actually new. What makes them refurbished is they did not pass the quality test for one reason or another. For example if the camera was not working correctly on a QC inspection, they may take a camera from a returned device to replace it. Also they sometimes use returned parts to repair customers serviced devices. Basically once the the item has been used and returned the outer case is not resold. I learned this when I returned an item and mentioned that all of the original packaging was pristine so it should be easy to refurbish. He said for the most part, returned items are simply recycled.
Wow. Judgemental much?
People who have visible tattoos have no self-respect? That's got to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard in a long time.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I have never seen a tattoo that makes me think MORE of a person. This is why many people get tattoos that they can hide, because a person with visible tattoos does not convey a person who respects himself, and if a person does not respect himself - what would make me think he will respect me, my finances, my business or my best interests?
ugh ... Hair loss and tattoo removal ... you actually are comparing those two items?
Gee, are tattoos a genetic trait?
Life is hard, it's even harder if you are stupid. If you want to desecrate your body with "art" that will look like grease stains in a few years, that is indeed your "problem". You can spend $50 getting a butterfly that will look like a moth in just a few years ... then you can spend $500 and a great deal of pain paying a surgeon with a laser to burn it off. Some would call this "stupid" ... you may call it whatever you wish.
My statement stands ... I have never seen a tattoo that makes me think MORE of someone for having it.
There is a reason you see losers with tattoos (ex-cons, felons, unemployable parasites, gang members, thugs, bikers, high school drop-outs who are trying to look tough ....). They have no respect for themselves, their bodies; and are vandalizing their bodies in an attempt to persuade others that they are worthwhile.
That's probably why your parents tried to teach you NOT to get a tattoo when you were a kid. Truth hurts.
Give us a break with your judgmental nonsense. My tattoo was done as a tribute to my late father who died of cancer. I'm a professional, hardworking software engineer for 25+ years, never been in trouble with the law, and certainly did not get it to "look tough".
Tattoos have been around during Egyptian times, they are held in high regard in Polynesian culture, and have been held in high regards long before modern cultures took it and glorified it as some right-of-passage for the miscreants of society.
I know countless of people that to you ignorants, look perfectly "normal and presentable" from the outside, but they too have body art that rarely is displayed to the public. Many I know are crazy-successful, professional members of society that felt it was their time to make a statement about themselves. I don't detest them, I admire them. It shows they are independent, free-minded people that don't adhere to some established standard of society. We need more of them, and less haters like you. Their success in life I'm sure would make yours look quite sad.
Be careful who you mouth-off your nonsense to... many folks you know have tattoos that you were never aware of.
Can you please stop labeling people with such a broad brush? A handful of opinions and you're declaring Apple fanboys hostile and zealots. They do not speak for the majority of Apple fans.
amazing that apple was so shortsighted as to not test it with tatted up people. apple shouldn't fail in this way.
You have zero proof of Apple's testing methods. They may, or may not have. Many folks have tattoos with colored inks which may not have any issues with the Apple Watch compared to someone with say, dark black tattoos where the inks may have a higher metal content.
This sounds like another xGate where one or two people are made to sound like 1/2 the market is having a problem. Like other nonsense in the past, this will fade into memory in a week.
I learned the other day when speaking with my Apple Business Rep that when stuff gets returned it does not go on sale again except if they use their eBay channel. Refurbished devices are actually new. What makes them refurbished is they did not pass the quality test for one reason or another. For example if the camera was not working correctly on a QC inspection, they may take a camera from a returned device to replace it. Also they sometimes use returned parts to repair customers serviced devices. Basically once the the item has been used and returned the outer case is not resold. I learned this when I returned an item and mentioned that all of the original packaging was pristine so it should be easy to refurbish. He said for the most part, returned items are simply recycled.
Wow. I buy Apple refurbished whenever possible. Just got an Airport Express - 30% off! While something may indeed have failed, refurbished things (beyond Apple) usually receive more attention than normally priced items.
And that comment tells me you are seriously ignorant.
I have a tattoo sleeve that covers me shoulder and one side of my chest. I don't drink at all. Been working for the govt for 23 years.
My brother did the tattoo. He's respected in his community and church, a proud father and husband married 15 years. He hasn't touched alcohol for the better part of 2 decades.
Both parents have tattoos. Neither drink.
Tattoos in my family are cultural.
There are some really ignorant and judgmental people on this thread that have no idea what they are talking about.
FYI: if your lost has to include the phrase "not to be judgemental" then 99 times out of 100...it is.
Since you brought up the church - have you heard of Lev. 19:28?
Just seems pertinent, if being a respected member of the community and church is important.
In all seriousness I actually married a woman with a tattoo. I don't like them, I wouldn't have one myself, but I'm clearly able to see past the tattoo
You redeemed yourself somewhat. I was rather surprised at your distaste for them. Don't know why per-se, but usually I enjoy your posts so it was quite a shock to me. Don't get me wrong, I've seen people with butt-ugly tattoos that makes even me squirm. On the flip side, I've seen tattoos on women that are so beautifully done, tasteful, and describes an entire story - usually a very personal one - that it makes me appreciate them even more. Those are my norms more so than the exception.
The folks that get tattoos from a night of drinking/partying or some "fad" tattoo should be ashamed of themselves as they perpetuate the stereotype. When they describe a personal story, has meaning, and took some actual thought, it not only shows but also means it was done for the right reasons.
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A person with a lot of tattoos, at least in my part of the country, tends to indicate gang affiliation.
In my part of the country, it does not. Then again, I don't look at a bunch of black-tattoo-ridden Latino gang members in East LA the same way as professionals with multi-color, artistic body art. I think every area has extremes on each end of the spectrum.
Be careful who you mouth-off your nonsense to... many folks you know have tattoos that you were never aware of.
I never said that ALL tattoo wearers are criminals.
But, if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck - well, odds are better than fair that it may be a duck.
If you wish to disfigure your body, that's your choice. Just don't demand that everyone else "respect" your foolishness. The topics of discussion that happen after you leave are seldom flattering, if ever.
Again, because people just are ignoring the basics .... no tattoo you can get will ever make anyone think more of you, at best you will break even - but typically people will think less of you.
Any idiot with $10 can get ink. Getting a tattoo doesn't prove anything, it isn't heroic, it isn't an act of bravery - one could argue the opposite that it's cowardice in going along with the low IQ herd. Face it, there aren't a lot of Mensa members in the MI-13, ex-con, bikers and other tattoo group memberships. You made the conscious decision to join that group - howl all you like. It was your choice, not mine.
Since you brought up the church - have you heard of Lev. 19:28?
Just seems pertinent, if being a respected member of the community and church is important.
Oh please. Give me a break with that old-testament religious bullsh!t. Tattoos have been around before Christianity. A bunch of white, religious zealots ages ago now "suddenly" tells the rest of the world that what they were doing for all those centuries now means a quick ticket to Hell?
I was raised Catholic, and my parents were/are hard-core Catholics. My mom and immediate family are very active in the church and apparently, I'm not going to Hell because of my tattoo.
There are so many hypocritical flaws with Leviticus which is probably why I got kicked out of Catholic school as a kid. I just couldn't reconcile what I see versus what was written.
It tells some people that maybe they don't consider the long term consequences of their actions before taking them.
What? A single feature of a expensive limited use watch doesn't work, but instead I have badass body art. I'll choose the body art. Years from now when no one is wearing a watch I'll still have the badass body art.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/186021/apple-watch-wrist-detection-failing-with-some-tattoos-users-complain/80#post_2717120" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span><div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>DiegoG</strong> <a href="/t/186021/apple-watch-wrist-detection-failing-with-some-tattoos-users-complain/80#post_2717120"><img src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" class="inlineimg" alt="View Post"/></a><br/><br/>And that comment tells me you are seriously ignorant.<br />
I have a tattoo sleeve that covers me shoulder and one side of my chest. I don't drink at all. Been working for the govt for 23 years.<br />
My brother did the tattoo. He's respected in his community and church, a proud father and husband married 15 years. He hasn't touched alcohol for the better part of 2 decades.<br />
Both parents have tattoos. Neither drink.<br />
Tattoos in my family are cultural.<br />
There are some really ignorant and judgmental people on this thread that have no idea what they are talking about.<br />
FYI: if your lost has to include the phrase "not to be judgemental" then 99 times out of 100...it is.<br />
</div></div></div><p> </p>Since you brought up the church - have you heard of Lev. 19:28?
Just seems pertinent, if being a respected member of the community and church is important.
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Gee, are tattoos a genetic trait?
Life is hard, it's even harder if you are stupid. If you want to desecrate your body with "art" that will look like grease stains in a few years, that is indeed your "problem". You can spend $50 getting a butterfly that will look like a moth in just a few years ... then you can spend $500 and a great deal of pain paying a surgeon with a laser to burn it off. Some would call this "stupid" ... you may call it whatever you wish.
My statement stands ... I have never seen a tattoo that makes me think MORE of someone for having it.
There is a reason you see losers with tattoos (ex-cons, felons, unemployable parasites, gang members, thugs, bikers, high school drop-outs who are trying to look tough ....). They have no respect for themselves, their bodies; and are vandalizing their bodies in an attempt to persuade others that they are worthwhile.
That's probably why your parents tried to teach you NOT to get a tattoo when you were a kid. Truth hurts.
no one is judging people who have tats.
all we are saying is dont be surprised if a product that reads your skin does not work.
Sorry Sog... there are quite a few posts from established forum members (not the usual trolls and haters) that are contrary to what you just wrote. I too was rather surprised at how some of them were mouthing-off their opinions on body art. Quite a few are (pre)judging.
With luck there will be lots of returns and then the rest of us can receive our watches 2 weeks earlier /S
I learned the other day when speaking with my Apple Business Rep that when stuff gets returned it does not go on sale again except if they use their eBay channel. Refurbished devices are actually new. What makes them refurbished is they did not pass the quality test for one reason or another. For example if the camera was not working correctly on a QC inspection, they may take a camera from a returned device to replace it. Also they sometimes use returned parts to repair customers serviced devices. Basically once the the item has been used and returned the outer case is not resold. I learned this when I returned an item and mentioned that all of the original packaging was pristine so it should be easy to refurbish. He said for the most part, returned items are simply recycled.
No. Just making judgemental holier-than-thou comments. Read the thread.
People who have visible tattoos have no self-respect? That's got to be one of the most ignorant things I've heard in a long time.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
ugh ... Hair loss and tattoo removal ... you actually are comparing those two items?
Gee, are tattoos a genetic trait?
Life is hard, it's even harder if you are stupid. If you want to desecrate your body with "art" that will look like grease stains in a few years, that is indeed your "problem". You can spend $50 getting a butterfly that will look like a moth in just a few years ... then you can spend $500 and a great deal of pain paying a surgeon with a laser to burn it off. Some would call this "stupid" ... you may call it whatever you wish.
My statement stands ... I have never seen a tattoo that makes me think MORE of someone for having it.
There is a reason you see losers with tattoos (ex-cons, felons, unemployable parasites, gang members, thugs, bikers, high school drop-outs who are trying to look tough ....). They have no respect for themselves, their bodies; and are vandalizing their bodies in an attempt to persuade others that they are worthwhile.
That's probably why your parents tried to teach you NOT to get a tattoo when you were a kid. Truth hurts.
Give us a break with your judgmental nonsense. My tattoo was done as a tribute to my late father who died of cancer. I'm a professional, hardworking software engineer for 25+ years, never been in trouble with the law, and certainly did not get it to "look tough".
Tattoos have been around during Egyptian times, they are held in high regard in Polynesian culture, and have been held in high regards long before modern cultures took it and glorified it as some right-of-passage for the miscreants of society.
I know countless of people that to you ignorants, look perfectly "normal and presentable" from the outside, but they too have body art that rarely is displayed to the public. Many I know are crazy-successful, professional members of society that felt it was their time to make a statement about themselves. I don't detest them, I admire them. It shows they are independent, free-minded people that don't adhere to some established standard of society. We need more of them, and less haters like you. Their success in life I'm sure would make yours look quite sad.
Be careful who you mouth-off your nonsense to... many folks you know have tattoos that you were never aware of.
amazing that apple was so shortsighted as to not test it with tatted up people. apple shouldn't fail in this way.
You have zero proof of Apple's testing methods. They may, or may not have. Many folks have tattoos with colored inks which may not have any issues with the Apple Watch compared to someone with say, dark black tattoos where the inks may have a higher metal content.
This sounds like another xGate where one or two people are made to sound like 1/2 the market is having a problem. Like other nonsense in the past, this will fade into memory in a week.
Individual results may vary.
Man, a lot of hate for tattoos here.
I learned the other day when speaking with my Apple Business Rep that when stuff gets returned it does not go on sale again except if they use their eBay channel. Refurbished devices are actually new. What makes them refurbished is they did not pass the quality test for one reason or another. For example if the camera was not working correctly on a QC inspection, they may take a camera from a returned device to replace it. Also they sometimes use returned parts to repair customers serviced devices. Basically once the the item has been used and returned the outer case is not resold. I learned this when I returned an item and mentioned that all of the original packaging was pristine so it should be easy to refurbish. He said for the most part, returned items are simply recycled.
Wow. I buy Apple refurbished whenever possible. Just got an Airport Express - 30% off! While something may indeed have failed, refurbished things (beyond Apple) usually receive more attention than normally priced items.
And that comment tells me you are seriously ignorant.
I have a tattoo sleeve that covers me shoulder and one side of my chest. I don't drink at all. Been working for the govt for 23 years.
My brother did the tattoo. He's respected in his community and church, a proud father and husband married 15 years. He hasn't touched alcohol for the better part of 2 decades.
Both parents have tattoos. Neither drink.
Tattoos in my family are cultural.
There are some really ignorant and judgmental people on this thread that have no idea what they are talking about.
FYI: if your lost has to include the phrase "not to be judgemental" then 99 times out of 100...it is.
Since you brought up the church - have you heard of Lev. 19:28?Just seems pertinent, if being a respected member of the community and church is important.
In all seriousness I actually married a woman with a tattoo. I don't like them, I wouldn't have one myself, but I'm clearly able to see past the tattoo
You redeemed yourself somewhat.
I was rather surprised at your distaste for them. Don't know why per-se, but usually I enjoy your posts so it was quite a shock to me. Don't get me wrong, I've seen people with butt-ugly tattoos that makes even me squirm. On the flip side, I've seen tattoos on women that are so beautifully done, tasteful, and describes an entire story - usually a very personal one - that it makes me appreciate them even more. Those are my norms more so than the exception.
The folks that get tattoos from a night of drinking/partying or some "fad" tattoo should be ashamed of themselves as they perpetuate the stereotype. When they describe a personal story, has meaning, and took some actual thought, it not only shows but also means it was done for the right reasons.
A person with a lot of tattoos, at least in my part of the country, tends to indicate gang affiliation.
In my part of the country, it does not. Then again, I don't look at a bunch of black-tattoo-ridden Latino gang members in East LA the same way as professionals with multi-color, artistic body art. I think every area has extremes on each end of the spectrum.
Be careful who you mouth-off your nonsense to... many folks you know have tattoos that you were never aware of.
I never said that ALL tattoo wearers are criminals.But, if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck - well, odds are better than fair that it may be a duck.
If you wish to disfigure your body, that's your choice. Just don't demand that everyone else "respect" your foolishness. The topics of discussion that happen after you leave are seldom flattering, if ever.
Again, because people just are ignoring the basics .... no tattoo you can get will ever make anyone think more of you, at best you will break even - but typically people will think less of you.
Any idiot with $10 can get ink. Getting a tattoo doesn't prove anything, it isn't heroic, it isn't an act of bravery - one could argue the opposite that it's cowardice in going along with the low IQ herd. Face it, there aren't a lot of Mensa members in the MI-13, ex-con, bikers and other tattoo group memberships. You made the conscious decision to join that group - howl all you like. It was your choice, not mine.
Actually, it probably tells me they get stone drunk.
How silly of me to forget that everyone who has a tattoo is a drug addicted alcoholic.
Just seems pertinent, if being a respected member of the community and church is important.
Oh please. Give me a break with that old-testament religious bullsh!t. Tattoos have been around before Christianity. A bunch of white, religious zealots ages ago now "suddenly" tells the rest of the world that what they were doing for all those centuries now means a quick ticket to Hell?
I was raised Catholic, and my parents were/are hard-core Catholics. My mom and immediate family are very active in the church and apparently, I'm not going to Hell because of my tattoo.
There are so many hypocritical flaws with Leviticus which is probably why I got kicked out of Catholic school as a kid. I just couldn't reconcile what I see versus what was written.
It tells some people that maybe they don't consider the long term consequences of their actions before taking them.
What? A single feature of a expensive limited use watch doesn't work, but instead I have badass body art. I'll choose the body art. Years from now when no one is wearing a watch I'll still have the badass body art.
dumb.
so you want to hire someone who does not care what the customer thinks?
If you judge a book by it's cover then I wouldn't want you as a customer.
Do you follow the book that closely? Every single little part of the bible? Didn't think so...
Prejudice, judgemental AND quoting scripture. You must be Christian....
The tradition of tattooing predates modern religion by a few millennia.