"The Justice Department is pursuing court orders to force Apple Inc. to help investigators extract data from iPhones in about a dozen undisclosed cases around the country, in disputes similar to the current battle over a terrorist’s locked phone, according to people familiar with the matter.
The other phones are at issue in cases where prosecutors have sought, as in the San Bernardino, Calif., terror case, to use an 18th-century law called the All Writs Act to compel the company to help them bypass the passcode security feature of phones that may hold evidence, these people said.
The specifics of the roughly dozen cases haven’t been disclosed publicly, but they don’t involve terrorism charges, these people said."
People seem to be missing a couple of points here--one, there is simply no way to limit it to "one phone." Once it exists, a judge can order Apple to do it again--and can do so in secret, so Apple has to do it without telling anyone. Second, this isn't limited to the U.S. Once this exists, China could order Apple to do it routinely, and Apple's only option would be to leave the huge Chinese market completely. Apple's only defense right now is that the software doesn't exist.
Exactly. Nose under the tent. It's more than a matter of principle and more than Apple. What happened is tragic. But presuming Apple does not have the ability to open the single phone, it's only choice is to NOT open the phone. If they do, every time the government feels it needs into a phone it will demand it, or use it all the time once it's given to them for future use. Then it's other companies being asked because the precedent is set. Then other countries. This is how we have lost every bit of security we've lost up to now.
The judge demands a software masterkey be "delivered" to the FBI. With the pinkie swear it would only be used on that one health department work phone. And Gates buys that bullshit? Dumber than he looks.
Bill is allowed to respectfully disagree if he wants to. While this is red meat for a lot of Apple enthusiasts, keep in mind that this issue is not black and white and is really complex not just from a technical standpoint but from a moral standpoint as well.
It's not complex at all. If Apple were to comply, if even possible, every country in the world would be demanding the same access, and eventually this would get out in the wild. This is not about just one phone, nor is it complex. Only someone who is clueless would think so, or someone who ran a company selling buggy easily hacked software like Windows historically was under Bill. Of course he thinks Apple is wrong, security wasn't that high of a priority when he was in charge, so why should it be for Apple...
"This is a specific case where the government is asking for access to
information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking
for a particular case," Gates said. "It is no different than [the
question of] should anybody ever have been able to tell the phone
company to get information, should anybody be able to get at bank
records. Let's say the bank had tied a ribbon round the disk drive and
said 'don't make me cut this ribbon because you'll make me cut it many
times'."
Well know we know for sure, Billie just doesn't understand this subject. Of course he didn't understand what those ugly Windows viruses were doing to personal independent Windows users.
Thank you Bill!! This is ridiculous Apple is using a mass-murder terror attack as a publicity stunt to show off their IPhone security- rather than just quietly getting that info out like they should have done day one, no mention to the press needed.
They are just using this as an opportunity to get press. It's disgusting and I will probably never touch another Apple product as a result. What they're doing makes me sick.
Bill's been a statist for quite some time, and he's nowhere near the 'nice guy' he's portrayed to be.
Right...so if Bill disagrees with Apple, he's obviously a "statist" and not "nice guy he's portrayed to be". Thoughtful comment. Got any more gems.
don't be a hater just because it's true. the Feds are one of gate's biggest customers. his products have so many back doors they're effectively front doors.
I hope the US government gives them an ultimatum to pay their taxes that they've been evading for years or deport them all to Ireland
ignorant nonsense. Apple is the largest tax payer in the US. what they won't do is willing give up a third of their income earned overseas on goods made overseas and sold overseas. nor would you if you worked overseas.
I love all things Apple, but they're out of their depth here. This is a massive overreaction akin to those who lie awake nights worrying that red light cameras are the first step to Big Brother taking over. What is needed is not an extreme, Snowden-like anti-government position, but a balancing test so both safety and privacy can be protected. That's how this will ultimately play out: Apple will lose this one and then legislation will strike the appropriate balance between safety and privacy.
if you believe Snowden is simply anti-government then it is you who is out of his element.
Thank you Bill!! This is ridiculous Apple is using a mass-murder terror attack as a publicity stunt to show off their IPhone security- rather than just quietly getting that info out like they should have done day one, no mention to the press needed.
They are just using this as an opportunity to get press. It's disgusting and I will probably never touch another Apple product as a result. What they're doing makes me sick.
Someone who created the most unsecured OS known to man would say that.... Good thing he left the company because seemingly he doesn't know shit about tech anymore.
"The Justice Department is pursuing court orders to force Apple Inc. to help investigators extract data from iPhones in about a dozen undisclosed cases around the country, in disputes similar to the current battle over a terrorist’s locked phone, according to people familiar with the matter.
The other phones are at issue in cases where prosecutors have sought, as in the San Bernardino, Calif., terror case, to use an 18th-century law called the All Writs Act to compel the company to help them bypass the passcode security feature of phones that may hold evidence, these people said.
The specifics of the roughly dozen cases haven’t been disclosed publicly, but they don’t involve terrorism charges, these people said."
Well, that didn't take long.
Comey Lied.
Indeed he did.
Anyone with a half a brain could see that this was never about 'one phone'.
John Gruber speculated that the FBI request to break the phone was not incompetence; that they needed the phone locked so they could force Apple to write their spy software for them.
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"The Justice Department is pursuing court orders to force Apple Inc. to help investigators extract data from iPhones in about a dozen undisclosed cases around the country, in disputes similar to the current battle over a terrorist’s locked phone, according to people familiar with the matter.
The other phones are at issue in cases where prosecutors have sought, as in the San Bernardino, Calif., terror case, to use an 18th-century law called the All Writs Act to compel the company to help them bypass the passcode security feature of phones that may hold evidence, these people said.
The specifics of the roughly dozen cases haven’t been disclosed publicly, but they don’t involve terrorism charges, these people said."Well, that didn't take long.
Comey Lied.
Of course he didn't understand what those ugly Windows viruses were doing to personal independent Windows users.
ignorant nonsense. Apple is the largest tax payer in the US. what they won't do is willing give up a third of their income earned overseas on goods made overseas and sold overseas. nor would you if you worked overseas.
get educated.
if you believe Snowden is simply anti-government then it is you who is out of his element.
Anyone with a half a brain could see that this was never about 'one phone'.
John Gruber speculated that the FBI request to break the phone was not incompetence; that they needed the phone locked so they could force Apple to write their spy software for them.