Apple refuses to back GOP convention because of Trump politics

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  • Reply 101 of 280
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 999member
    But they support Hillary who has raised millions through the Ckinton foundation from Saudi Arabia, where they stone gays to death?
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  • Reply 102 of 280

    ronwp54 said:
    The more Tim Cook keeps dragging Apple into political issues the more business Apple is going to lose.

    You are aware if Apple would gives money, they ARE dragging Apple into politics. (*)
    Basically Apple is doing what is should do ... not interfere with politics by NOT giving money.

    Thats a good think for sure.

    (*) It seems only Trump fans here do not understand this point of view. Apparently they do find it 'normal' Apple would give Trump or any other party backup. That just say enough about Trump fans. Dumb Dumber Dumbest.
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  • Reply 103 of 280
    foadfoad Posts: 708member
    Historically, Apple has supported both conventions. They don't take sides. They are only taking a stand because of Trump. Heck, most people in the GOP don't support him. They don't really have any other choice. I know a lot of conservatives that aren't voting this year because of Trump. Beyond his political boasting, he has directly targeted Apple. Why is Apple required to support the GOP convention? I don't get it.

    If anything, I commend them for having principals. We live in a country that gives us the right to choose what path we take. If Apple shareholders or employees have an issue, get out of the stock or quit your job, but I'm guessing most employees support the decision.
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  • Reply 104 of 280
    foadfoad Posts: 708member
    tyler82 said:
    But they support Hillary who has raised millions through the Ckinton foundation from Saudi Arabia, where they stone gays to death?
    Not supporting Trump, doesn't mean supporting Hillary. Those two things are mutually exclusive.
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  • Reply 105 of 280
    EsquireCatsEsquireCats Posts: 1,243member
    This isn't even about picking sides - the presumptive nominee publicly ridiculed apple and called for a boycott of their products multiple times, why on earth would they now give him a free ride.
    edited June 2016 irelandwetlanderbaconstangai46
  • Reply 106 of 280
    xbitxbit Posts: 357member
    As a Brit, I'm glad that I won't have to choose between Trump and Clinton. Only, Johnson and Corbyn... oh dear god, no....  :'(
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  • Reply 107 of 280
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    jungmark said:
    I don't think Apple should pick sides no matter how disastrous a Trump presidency would be. 
    Trump picked a side for Apple when he said to boycott Apple. Enough said.

    It's also not a big deal either. If Trump wins, he's gong to face a steep uphill battle to push any of his agenda because he alienates everyone from every side. If he wins, it might be the first time in history that congress absolutely tries to veto the president's executive orders (2/3rds majority) frequently, because Trump is exactly that kind of person who would destroy America first before "making it great" , because that is how he runs a business, straight into the ground while he makes off with all the assets before impact.

    Voting Trump in, would be like voting for Putin in Russia. He's popular for some reasons, and all the criminals are running the government.
    edited June 2016 singularitybobschlobbaconstangpropodai46spliff monkey
  • Reply 108 of 280
    xbit said:
    As a Brit, I'm glad that I won't have to choose between Trump and Clinton. Only, Johnson and Corbyn... oh dear god, no....  :'(

    Ah, but you have your Royals ...  Slangevar!



  • Reply 109 of 280
    metrixmetrix Posts: 256member
    apple ][ said:
    flaneur said:
    This is the level of insanity represented by Trump and his supporters. 

    There is no way Apple would want to be associated with this descent into barbarism. People still remember the American companies that supported and collaborated with Hitler — people who know history, that is — and I'm sure that CEOs like Cook and Nadella will do all they can to avoid an equivalent disaster.
    The war that I am talking about is of course the war (call it whatever you like) to completely wipe out and demolish ISIS, unlike Obama, who wrongly believes that containment is an acceptable stance, and a man who once referred to ISIS as the JV team, in one of his many idiotic and unintelligent statements a while back.

    It's time to shift out the incompetent current potus from the WH, and replace him with a man with a plan.

    And that man is of course Donald Trump. After he's sworn in, ISIS had better start counting their days on this earth, because they're all going to have to die. That's just how things are. Getting rid of ISIS is high on the Trump agenda.
    8,000 US service men/women are killing themselves every year as it is. Stop thinking " we'll just wipe them out". Correct me if I am wrong but we were on the other side of the war in Afganastan supporting Bin Laden at one point and the problem grew far worse after we removed Sudam Hussain in Iraq. If we just look at the past 10 years that's 80,000 suicides. We are killing ourselves faster then the enemy. Trump is completely out touch with reality has no moral boundaries and self consumed. We have had Obama for 8 years and it was supposed to be the end of the world once he entered office and unemployment is down 5% from 10% and gas is 40% cheaper. Yes, he hasn't been the best President and Hillary won't be any better but if Paul Ryan would have run ihe would win easily against Hillary. 
    edited June 2016 spliff monkey
  • Reply 110 of 280
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,251member
    $140,000 in hardware from one vendor for one conference?

    The amount of money in the US political process is nuts.
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  • Reply 111 of 280
    r2d2r2d2 Posts: 95member
    apple ][ said:

    The war that I am talking about is of course the war (call it whatever you like) to completely wipe out and demolish ISIS, unlike Obama, who wrongly believes that containment is an acceptable stance, and a man who once referred to ISIS as the JV team, in one of his many idiotic and unintelligent statements a while back.

    It's time to shift out the incompetent current potus from the WH, and replace him with a man with a plan.

    And that man is of course Donald Trump. After he's sworn in, ISIS had better start counting their days on this earth, because they're all going to have to die. That's just how things are. Getting rid of ISIS is high on the Trump agenda.
    Do you really believe that the military is not doing all they can to defeat ISIS?

    Should the military commit war crimes and purposely kill innocent civilians?

    Do you have children in the military? (you never answered)


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  • Reply 112 of 280
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    So no official comment from Apple just "sources" who spoke to Politico? 
    Politico is to political coverage what TMZ is to celebrity coverage. In other words, just invent a story to fill some space.
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  • Reply 113 of 280
    Actions by big companies like Apple only make me a stronger supporter of Trump.  The hypocrisy of both political parties drives me nut, however Clinton with all her back room deals, which support her financially, tops the cake.  "Come on America - wake up!"
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  • Reply 114 of 280
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    This isn't even about picking sides - the presumptive nominee publicly ridiculed apple and called for a boycott of their products multiple times, why on earth would they now give him a free ride.
    Democrats conveniently push this out of their "collective consciousness"?

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/wheres-obamas-encryption-policy

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  • Reply 115 of 280
    It seems to me more of terminating a sponsorship than anything else.
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  • Reply 116 of 280
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    jlandd said:

    We could use an intelligent and savvy loose cannon who has a record of success.  But Trump simply has none of the tools necessary for the job, and his string of dubious self proclaimed successes only mean he knows how to walk away from failed projects with another few million in his pocket.   It's unfortunate that we aren't being given much of a choice, but Trump is a laughing stock to the rest of the world's leaders and to say he hasn't got a chance in international negotiations would be being generous.
    To be honest, the general opinions of other countries are irrelevant. Trump is not Hitler, so the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over him versus career criminal Clinton I find laughable.
    It's true that Hitler showed more cunning, intellect and focus than Trump, and even more understanding of cause and effect, but both used exactly the same appeal to the fear-scarred reptile brains of their "loser" followers as the basis of their popularity.

    Trump is far more dangerous than Hitler was simply because in the present nuclear weapons context. One doesn't need years to build up a fascist war apparatus to destroy civilization. An American Great Leader can just blunder and stumble into an atomic apocalypse.

    By the way, many here have been duped by years of right wing poison propaganda about the Clintons. Such naiveté exists because people don't read enough to recognize trash like "Clinton Cash" for what it is: "right-wing guttersniping," as even Newsweek called it.






    edited June 2016 dsdbaconstangpropodai46spliff monkey
  • Reply 117 of 280
    r2d2r2d2 Posts: 95member
    Democrats conveniently push this out of their "collective consciousness"?

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/wheres-obamas-encryption-policy

    That article basically says that Obama didn't pick a side on encryption. What's to "push out"? 
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  • Reply 118 of 280
    karmadavekarmadave Posts: 368member
    Why would Apple spend a dime to support Trump? His trade policies would be disasterous for Apple's operations, in China, and Trump's rhetoric against woman and minorities are antithetical to Apple's values. Finally, Apple probably doesn't want to spend a dime on a candidate who is simply not qualified to be president let alone hold public office. Kudos to Tim Cook!
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  • Reply 119 of 280
    radiospaceradiospace Posts: 180member
    You Republicans are HILARIOUS.

    Apple is not boycotting Republicans; they are not refusing to sell products in red states; they are not refusing to provide warrantied technical support to Donald Trump for his iPhone... they are simply not giving the GOP FREE goodies to hold a convention where they are going to mock Apple employees' ethnicity, call for a boycott of the company, and make other direct and indirect attacks on Apple's business and culture.

    Only  "conservatives" would think they have a right to free stuff from a company while assailing it from every angle.  LOL.
    edited June 2016 r2d2singularityericthehalfbeenolamacguymac_dogbaconstangboopthesnootspliff monkeyjackansi
  • Reply 120 of 280
    bulk001bulk001 Posts: 693member
    lostkiwi said:
    This will be interesting. There is a large and extremely vocal group of Republican/Trump supporters here on AI. Personally I can't understand why as Apple is the most left leaning American company I can think of in the most left leaning state. 

    I'm not American but it is so gosh darn interesting watching your politics. It is a mixture of the most toxic reality TV series combined with the naked tribalism of a collegiate final (insert the sport of your choice). 

    Fascinating. And horrifying at once. 
    After all we have done for you big business this is how you repay us (or rather, don't repay us)? - Pro Business GOPers.
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