Samsung's 5 million Galaxy S8 sales far below 2014's S4 peak

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Samsung announced today that first-month sales of its Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus have reached 5 million units. Sales of the previous year's Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge sold an estimated 7-9 million units in their initial launch month, while back in 2013 Samsung announced its Galaxy S4 sold 10 million in its first month, a "Peak Galaxy" the company has never actually managed to surpass.

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A report by Cho Mu-Hyun for ZDNet noted the 5 million unit announcement, without any comparison to previous year sales. Each year since reaching Peak Galaxy in 2014, Samsung has floated the idea that its new model has outpaced sales, shipments (or sometimes "preorders") of the previous edition, but in reality Galaxy S sales--and subsequently Samsung Mobile profits--have actually never recovered since the Galaxy S4.


Samsung's S4 flagship launch in 2013 was twice as big as S8


An unnamed Samsung spokesperson stated that "although we cannot provide detailed figures, the sales are going smoothly around the globe. The combined sales already are beyond 5 million units."

That language calls to mind the company's use of "quite smooth" to describe sales of the original Galaxy Tab back in 2011 (offered as a correction of "quite small" as initially reported). Years later, it was revealed in Samsung's iPhone infringement case that Galaxy Tab sales were indeed "quite small" and that the 2 million figure the company publicly announced shipping at the beginning of 2011 was twice as large as its actual sales for the entire year of 2011.

At Samsung, 5 is the new 11

After announcing 10 million in first-month sales for Galaxy S4, a company spokesman the following year said Galaxy S5 sales had reached 11 million in its first month. The S5 turned out to be a poorly reviewed dog of a product, with a sloppily insecure fingerprint system that didn't work well. Sales tanked and profits fell, despite positive-sounding announcements of initial first month shipments.

The following year, Information Week noted that Samsung's S6 and S6 Edge "failed to break records," citing that despite shipping 10 million S6 units into the channel, Counterpoint Research had estimated that it had only sold about 6 million to actual buyers during its launch month of April.

Last year, analysts increased their first-month sales estimates for Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge "from 7 million units to 9 million -- triple those of the S6 and S6 edge over the same period," according to Digital Trends. Yet if Samsung had sold 6 million S6 models the year before, triple that number would be 18 million, not 9 million, according to basic math.

Last year, Vlad Savov wrote for the Verge that "Samsung's Galaxy S7 is outselling Apple's iPhone 6S in the US," citing data discovered in a comparison of the S7 launch and Apple's slowest quarter for sales. In reality, Apple's iPhone 6s sold 13 million units in 3 days at its launch, greater than three weeks of Samsung's S7 launch sales.

And rather than being real growth for Samsung, Counterpoint's research director Neil Shah estimated that the Galaxy S7 was only "on par with the popular S4 model," which launched four years ago between the introductions of iPhone 5 and 5s. Since then, Apple's sales grew dramatically in the shift from iPhone 5/5s generations to the larger 6/6s/7 models, while Samsung has remained stuck far below peak sales reached back in 2014.



Apple continues to bring in over 5.4 times the profits of Samsung Mobile despite shipping fewer phone sets.
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  • Reply 1 of 61
    andrewj5790andrewj5790 Posts: 293member
    Typical DeD article.
    Right. Full of facts. 
    Muntzericthehalfbeeneo-techlkrupptycho_macuserpscooter63albegarcjbdragonradarthekatmejsric
  • Reply 2 of 61
    igorskyigorsky Posts: 582member
    Typical DeD article.
    Right. Full of facts. 
     Facts...the immortal enemy of the Samsung apologist.
    Muntzericthehalfbeebb-15neo-techlkrupptycho_macuserstanthemanalbegarcRayz2016jbdragon
  • Reply 3 of 61
    MuntzMuntz Posts: 26member
    Typical DeD article.
    Typical astroturfer response.
    jbdragonradarthekatgilly017watto_cobraStrangeDaysicoco3cali
  • Reply 4 of 61
    kevin keekevin kee Posts: 1,291member
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    edited May 2017 bb-15tycho_macuserradarthekatmejsricgilly017watto_cobrapropodMacsplosion
  • Reply 5 of 61
    MuntzMuntz Posts: 26member
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    brucemcwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 61
    ericthehalfbeeericthehalfbee Posts: 4,284member
    For reference:

    Galaxy S2 hit 10 million in 5 months.
    Galaxy S3 hit 10 million in 55 days.
    Note 3 hit 10 million in 60 days.
    Galaxy S4 hit 10 million in 29 days.

    This is the last time Samsung ever reported sales figures for any of their devices. Samsung has a web page called the "10 Million Club" which lists all devices that hit that milestone. Hasn't been updated in some time.

    https://news.samsung.com/global/history-of-samsung-mobile-phones-10-million-seller-club

    stanthemanpscooter63albegarcradarthekatlito_lupenamejsricgilly017watto_cobrapropod
  • Reply 7 of 61
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 283member
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    lito_lupenadasanman69watto_cobracali
  • Reply 8 of 61
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    For reference:

    Galaxy S2 hit 10 million in 5 months.
    Galaxy S3 hit 10 million in 55 days.
    Note 3 hit 10 million in 60 days.
    Galaxy S4 hit 10 million in 29 days.

    This is the last time Samsung ever reported sales figures for any of their devices. Samsung has a web page called the "10 Million Club" which lists all devices that hit that milestone. Hasn't been updated in some time.

    https://news.samsung.com/global/history-of-samsung-mobile-phones-10-million-seller-club

    Agreed..Samsung won't hit those milestones...maybe not again. But also the Android space has changed there are a LOT more OEMs making quality phones now. More competition......  iPhone sales are pretty flat right now too....
    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
  • Reply 9 of 61
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    bb-15 said:
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    But they don't sell more than Samsung...


    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
  • Reply 10 of 61
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,471member
    geekdad said:
    bb-15 said:
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    But they don't sell more than Samsung...


    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
    FLAGSHIP phones. Most of Samsung’s sales are cheap throw away freebees.
    edited May 2017 pscooter63radarthekattycho_macusermejsricbb-15ericthehalfbeebrucemcmobiuswatto_cobrapropod
  • Reply 11 of 61
    GregMQGregMQ Posts: 1unconfirmed, member
    People are starting to come to their sense that it's ridiculous to spend $1000 on a phone. 
  • Reply 12 of 61
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,471member
    Typical DeD article.
    Boy have you been pwned.
    watto_cobracali
  • Reply 13 of 61
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    lkrupp said:
    geekdad said:
    bb-15 said:
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    But they don't sell more than Samsung...


    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
    FLAGSHIP phones, troll. Most of Samsung’s sales are cheap throw away freebees.
    ahhh...name calling...always a last defense. Then those iphones sales are also iphones 6, 6s SE and all previous models as well.
    brucemcavon b7
  • Reply 14 of 61
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Muntz said:
    geekdad said:
    For reference:

    Galaxy S2 hit 10 million in 5 months.
    Galaxy S3 hit 10 million in 55 days.
    Note 3 hit 10 million in 60 days.
    Galaxy S4 hit 10 million in 29 days.

    This is the last time Samsung ever reported sales figures for any of their devices. Samsung has a web page called the "10 Million Club" which lists all devices that hit that milestone. Hasn't been updated in some time.

    https://news.samsung.com/global/history-of-samsung-mobile-phones-10-million-seller-club

    Agreed..Samsung won't hit those milestones...maybe not again. But also the Android space has changed there are a LOT more OEMs making quality phones now. More competition......  iPhone sales are pretty flat right now too....
    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
    What compels you to go to an Apple fan site and shit post? In 10 years I've never gone to a high traffic Android site and shit posted Apple data on their message boards in a sad attempt to change their opinions. Not once.
    wow...I posted up to date and accurate data to show how skewed the article is....Then I posted here because I have an iPhone 7 plus..AND Android phones. 
    Then I am not trying to change anyone's opinion....could care less. Just posted facts.....
  • Reply 15 of 61
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,275member
    geekdad said:
    lkrupp said:
    geekdad said:
    bb-15 said:
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    But they don't sell more than Samsung...


    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
    FLAGSHIP phones, troll. Most of Samsung’s sales are cheap throw away freebees.
    ahhh...name calling...always a last defense. Then those iphones sales are also iphones 6, 6s SE and all previous models as well.
    Those stats for Apple aren't previous models. Apple is only selling the 7, 6s, and SE. Most of Samsung phone sales are the cheap models. 
    tycho_macuserbb-15watto_cobranetmageStrangeDayscali
  • Reply 16 of 61
    saltyzipsaltyzip Posts: 193member
    Competition​ is healthy in the Android world, it seems even the core websites are suggesting people hold off and buy a OnePlus 5 over an S8. 

    Then of course there is the pixel and not too far off pixel 2, so Samsung just can't stand out enough from the crowd anymore.
    icoco3
  • Reply 17 of 61
    Anyone that looks around knows that Samsung doesn't sell nearly as many flagship Galaxies like they use to. Back in the S3/S4 days I would see them in the wild quite often. Now i really don't see many Galaxies (Flagships) around at all, after the S4 the sales really did drop. I also can't stand all the comparisons of Samsung vs. iPhone when the new phones come out i Just don't get it, it has the be a views thing so people click the articles and watch the Youtube videos. I mean Samsung runs Android no iOS so why do people always need to compare. All Samsung can do is hardware they have no OS so the only thing to maybe compare is the cameras its all just so much clickbait these days.
    pscooter63watto_cobracali
  • Reply 18 of 61
    geekdad said:
    bb-15 said:
    Muntz said:
    kevin kee said:
    Typical DeD article.
    Well if you want lies and Samsung coddling go and read : http://bgr.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-figures/ or http://mashable.com/2017/05/16/galaxy-s8-sales-5-million/#2TXfyrCj7Pqj or any websites you can find when you google Samsung Galaxy S8 - they all love Samsung new hot sales (imagine if it was Apple, they would shred it apart). Only AI tells the fact, 5 Million is 5 Million, but even that you can't accept the truth. 
    They're not paid to accept this truth. This site is rife with paid marketers. 
    Either shipped / sales numbers are accurate or not.

    From CNET posted in January 31, 2017;
    "Apple sold more iPhones than ever before -- 78.3 million"

    If Apple sells more flagship phones than Samsung, then that's just the way it is. 
    But they don't sell more than Samsung...


    http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS42507917
    that's shipment though. not actual sales.
    badmonkwatto_cobracali
  • Reply 19 of 61
    pscooter63pscooter63 Posts: 1,055member
    Smoooooth...
    Didn't they use that expression the last time sales weren't up to snuff?
    watto_cobraStrangeDays
  • Reply 20 of 61
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    A very important number is user satisfaction.  Samsung is lacking. Consumers are not fools.  They may be fooled by paid reviewers and ads.  But consumers are fool me once and fool me twice persons.  This is where the user satisfaction number come into play. 
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