Okay, what about iTunes Match? I subscribe and it’s up in September. Will we still need iTunes Match to get our non-iTunes tracks uploaded to our iCloud library?
ITunes Match will continue, it looks like. That said, Apple Music essentially includes iTunes Match, as you probably know. But if you don’t want to switch, it seems like iTunes Match will continue to work for the foreseeable.
I am really looking forward to plugging in my original iPod to see what happens. That is if I can get enough dongles together to get its firewire interface into one of my macs that will run Catalina.
We have already done so, since this morning's sync piece, using a 2012 Retina MacBook Pro and a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter with a FW800 to 400 cable. Works fine.
A good report. I've pondered putting my original iPod under some sort of display case. It does actually work, and the whirr of the hard drive oddly nostalgic, but it do like to charge it now and then. Part of keeping antiques interesting is seeing them work.
Since you've got Catalina running, any sign of .mp4 or .m4v Movies and TV shows from iTunes into the new TV app?
Okay, what about iTunes Match? I subscribe and it’s up in September. Will we still need iTunes Match to get our non-iTunes tracks uploaded to our iCloud library?
No Change. All my iTunes Match songs ~25,000+ are showing up in Catalina / Apple Music.
Why couldn't the store and steaming music offering be merged? If you search for an album in the new Music app, you should get three options on the result - Play, Download or Buy. Reviews are only in the store, when they should be offered in the streaming service as well. Seems like they are missing an opportunity to streamline the app even more.
I’m not understanding what you mean: when you say “the new Music app” you must be referring to the Mac, so you must therefore know that the store is part of the Music app — so they have literally been merged (compared to the current iOS version, where Music and the iTunes Store are two separate apps).
I suppose reviews *could* be in Apple Music as well (and they sort of already are — there are brief reviews of many albums by professional critics, and the top tracks of a given album are starred — but reviews are written by people who committed to the album by buying it, and then took the time to write a review. Apple Music users (and I am one) tend to listen on the go, which doesn’t lend itself either to thoughtful writing or reading reviews.
What about smart playlists? As far as I can tell, there is no way to create them in the iPhone version of Music. I don't have an iPad so I don't know if it's in there. I would be very sad to lose that ability. I have many smart lists built by genre or artist and the star ratings I've given songs. (For instance, "Electronica & Dance songs rated 4 stars or more", "U2 songs rated 4 stars or more".)
Movies and TV shows purchased or rented from iTunes are moving to new Apple TV app, which will continue to work for future purchases or rentals of movies and TV episodes.
What about Movies and TV Shows ripped into the iTunes library from a DVD?
I spent hours and hours ripping Blu Rays to M4V files so I can have everything nicely organized in iTunes. I’m yet to find someone who can tell me where those will be housed in Catalina. If the Apple TV app is anything like the one on iOS, ONLY iTunes purchases will show up in Library, nothing else. This will be a colossal oversight if they did it.
FLAC support?!
It is baked into mac os for a few generations now (play them from finder with preview).
Licensing isn't an issue (and they do license dolby atmos etc)
ALAC didn't catch on, and has a few minor disadvantages from FLAC, not to mention availability on 3rd party purchase sites including HDtracks.
Why couldn't the store and steaming music offering be merged? If you search for an album in the new Music app, you should get three options on the result - Play, Download or Buy. Reviews are only in the store, when they should be offered in the streaming service as well. Seems like they are missing an opportunity to streamline the app even more.
I don't want a 50 million+ music client search engine tied to my thin Music that is mostly a small footprint and streaming only service. The iTunes back end is tied to the OS now. How else do you think Finder has all the mounting services for iOS devices? The iTunes store is now just a front end to that locally cached client/server software that coordinates separately with Apple server farms.
Why would you want to bloat the hell out of Music.app with that series of processes running on the Music.app?
Hopefully Podcasts having their own app will get Apple to take the media more seriously.
Apple is just laying back letting other services steal their invention and customers. A lot of people are now using Youtube, Spotify and others for podcasting instead. This is an area Apple had a monopoly over simply by inventing it, Apple played back then also but there were no alternatives. This is an area Apple can innovate in and take back.
Movies and TV shows purchased or rented from iTunes are moving to new Apple TV app, which will continue to work for future purchases or rentals of movies and TV episodes.
What about Movies and TV Shows ripped into the iTunes library from a DVD?
I spent hours and hours ripping Blu Rays to M4V files so I can have everything nicely organized in iTunes. I’m yet to find someone who can tell me where those will be housed in Catalina. If the Apple TV app is anything like the one on iOS, ONLY iTunes purchases will show up in Library, nothing else. This will be a colossal oversight if they did it.
I have ripped-from-dvd videos in my library in the Apple TV app on my iPhone. Ripped, added to iTunes on Mac, synced to iPhone. Assuming it will work the same in Catalina just that I’d be adding to TV app instead of iTunes.
iTunes is iTunes, Music app is Music app. iTunes is serving this users with their own library of imported musics from CDs, for instance. Music app will push the users to subscribe Apple Music service, for a charge. Some of you may already find it difficult to import a CD but unable to get Album Artwork, even for some very popular older albums. But from the Apple Music subscription, you can find the same song and it gives the album Artwork. Try Elvis’.
FLAC support?!
It is baked into mac os for a few generations now (play them from finder with preview).
Licensing isn't an issue (and they do license dolby atmos etc)
ALAC didn't catch on, and has a few minor disadvantages from FLAC, not to mention availability on 3rd party purchase sites including HDtracks.
ALAC is definitely useful.
I rip my CDs (yes, I still buy and collect them. lot's of obscurities that aren't available in any other medium) in iTunes using Apple Lossless (ALAC). I've only bought one digital recording from Apple. I'm up close to 800 "albums"ripped, that includes LOTS of multi-disk sets, symphonies, collections of works on multiple disks, a few operas, etc.
What about the ability to edit titles, artists, categories, and other metadata, etc.? You can't do that on iOS, and it's one of the reasons I've always viewed my iTunes library as my reference music library.
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Since you've got Catalina running, any sign of .mp4 or .m4v Movies and TV shows from iTunes into the new TV app?
All my iTunes Match songs ~25,000+ are showing up in Catalina / Apple Music.
I suppose reviews *could* be in Apple Music as well (and they sort of already are — there are brief reviews of many albums by professional critics, and the top tracks of a given album are starred — but reviews are written by people who committed to the album by buying it, and then took the time to write a review. Apple Music users (and I am one) tend to listen on the go, which doesn’t lend itself either to thoughtful writing or reading reviews.
Apple is just laying back letting other services steal their invention and customers. A lot of people are now using Youtube, Spotify and others for podcasting instead.
This is an area Apple had a monopoly over simply by inventing it, Apple played back then also but there were no alternatives. This is an area Apple can innovate in and take back.
keeps the “iTunes Store” name...
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I rip my CDs (yes, I still buy and collect them. lot's of obscurities that aren't available in any other medium) in iTunes using Apple Lossless (ALAC).
I've only bought one digital recording from Apple.
I'm up close to 800 "albums"ripped, that includes LOTS of multi-disk sets, symphonies, collections of works on multiple disks, a few operas, etc.