Apple debuts iPhone 11 Pro from $999 with triple rear camera

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  • Reply 121 of 171
    JMCKEVER said:
    64gb base in 2019 😂😂😂are you freaking kidding me , I’ll pass on this phone 
    Because $7/month on a 2 year plan is just breaking the bank, right? Go drown yourself in booze.
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  • Reply 122 of 171
    If you're expecting annual upgrades to be riveting you'll likely be disappointed for life. Normal people don't upgrade every year, so it's no surprise the updates are the usual 50% processor improvements, camera improvements, etc. You just got an awesome phone last year, so no tears for you.

    5G, when it arrives, just means faster loading web pages when not on wifi. Big whoop.
    5G will probably be 2020 so by the time Apple car arrives in 2021 Apple can work out all the bugs 
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  • Reply 123 of 171
    Because $7/month on a 2 year plan is just breaking the bank, right? Go drown yourself in booze.
    Mdriftmeyer is RIGHT! 64GB is simply a way to get people to buy cloud storage. 128GB should be the bare minimum.

    don't even start critisizing his opinion because you think he is cheap! It's about VALUE not COST. $7200 was no problem for a 10C iMac Pro because IT WAS WORTH IT WITH REGARDS TO VALUE!
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  • Reply 124 of 171
    The camera bumps certainly do not look like in prelaunch rendering. It looks more sleek and subtle. I watch the hands-on video and they actually look better 'in person' than in promotional materials. 

    Here are the summary of the things I really like from the demo:

    1. Green!
    2. Cameras!
    - Capture 4 more times scene (how many times I wished this to happen before)
    - Ultrawide view is another godsend for photography
    - Seriously, editing 4k video directly (like tools in photo) is long overdue - thanks Apple!
    - Not a big fans of night photographer - will see how good its night mode compare to Google Pixel
    - Studio style mono-grapher! Those details!
    - I am excited with the automatic fine-tune detail separately for both foreground subject and the background
    - 40% more light capture with Telephoto36% brighter True Tone flash with Slow SyncZero shutter lag6 lighting effects in Portrait mode2× more height for panos
    3. 1200 nits screen and 2,000,000:1 contrast, that's seriously one power screen if Apple manage to reduce the power consumption, which they did and more. It will make everything looks much better on screen.
    4.  20% faster CPU/GPU but 30-40% less power consumption - this is an engineering wonder by itself. 20% faster neural engine translates to faster AI processing should makes camera and siri faster response.
    5. Battery life! Usually it's another 1 or 2 extra hours every year, but this time it's 4 - 5 hours extra. I wonder if there is major breakthrough in battery technology or it's just efficient hardware and software overall. But battery life has been no 1 feature in demand for a while, this should makes lot of people happy.
    6. Spill and dust resistant are standards for phone this day, 30 mins up to 4m water resistant is good news if such accident happen to anyone.
    7. 30% faster Face ID  - but it's already fast now.
    8. Ultra Wideband technology for spatial awareness sounds like something might be useful once more U1 devices available.
    9. Dolby Atmos and Spatial audio are nice addition for immersive gaming, can't wait to try it with the new Apple Arcade.
    10. I am also happy with the faster charging (50% in 30mins), faster wifi and faster LTE.

    Overall, great improvements. There are just the right amount of everything. Arguably, Samsung might have the best display or Google might have the best camera, but iPhone has the best of everything in one little package. And as my phone is approaching 2 years old - it's time to upgrade to El Pro Max this year.
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  • Reply 125 of 171
    k2kw said:
    That’s a smart move because it’s the last year the modem was always from QualComm.   I think these phones still have Intel modems.   My iPhone 7+ is much better than my iPhone 8+.   I’m waiting another year for the QualComm based phones.   Very Glad they wised up and lowered the price of the 11 but still not very compelling to upgrade.

    The modem will be from Apple next year not Qualcomm 
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  • Reply 126 of 171
    dicebier1 said:
    LMAO! Steve Jobs wouldn't have even let the notch at the top of the phone occur! 
    Seriously, you don't know that. And the notch is the least of the issues
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  • Reply 127 of 171
    The dissemination of info and demos by office workers isn’t designed to relieve you of life’s doldrums. 
    Um... what?!

    You’re a tad incoherent and seriously rambling, dude. Here’s some advice — I know, I know, the irony — put down whatever it is that you’re vaping.
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  • Reply 128 of 171
    KITAkita Posts: 410member
    kevin kee said:

    4.  20% faster CPU/GPU but 30-40% less power consumption - this is an engineering wonder by itself.
    20% faster with the same power consumption - or - 30%~40% less power consumption with the same performance as the A12.

    Anandtech:

    On the CPU side of things, we’ve seen some evidence that Apple might be introducing a new CPU microarchitecture that differs more from past generations. There’s still two big performance new “Lightning” cores and the improvement claims here are 20% faster and 30% lower power. It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing. 

    ...

    The actual annotations in regards to the GPU in the A13 slides mentioned 20% performance improvements or 40% lower power.

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  • Reply 129 of 171


    But there is arguing with boneheadery. What do most people do? Surf the web. Faster downloads on a bus (maybe) isn’t life shattering. You’ve fallen for the hype I’m afraid. They must love you at the dealership.  
    I look forward to your fawning, obsequious, craven posts on the inevitability and greatness of 5G when Apple introduces its in 2020. IIRC, you’re the guy that got caught with his pants down fiddling with Apple’s Wikipedia pages so as to validate his point on an AI post — i.e., no leg to stand on.

    Oh, dont worry, I’ll remind you then (if you’re still around) :-)
    edited September 2019
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  • Reply 130 of 171
    KITAkita Posts: 410member
    Ah yeah, 50% faster SOC for iPhones, not innovative
    20%, not 50%. T

    That's about in-line with ARM's own designs for their medium sized A77 core:



    Still, that shouldn't take away from the entire package. The A13 is an impressive SoC.
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  • Reply 131 of 171
    KITA said:
    20% faster with the same power consumption - or - 30%~40% less power consumption with the same performance as the A12.

    Anandtech:

    From apple website.

    Fastest CPUin a smartphone

    The CPU’s two performance cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 40 per cent less power. And its four efficiency cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 25 per cent less power.

    Fastest GPUin a smartphone

    The Apple‑designed GPU is up to 20 per cent faster and uses up to 30 per cent less power. Perfect for high‑performance gaming and the latest AR experiences.

    We know Apple tends to be more conservative in their lab testing but once the world testing results out we shall see.
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  • Reply 132 of 171
    KITAkita Posts: 410member
    kevin kee said:

    From apple website.

    Fastest CPUin a smartphone

    The CPU’s two performance cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 40 per cent less power. And its four efficiency cores are up to 20 per cent faster and use up to 25 per cent less power.

    Fastest GPUin a smartphone

    The Apple‑designed GPU is up to 20 per cent faster and uses up to 30 per cent less power. Perfect for high‑performance gaming and the latest AR experiences.

    We know Apple tends to be more conservative in their lab testing but once the world testing results out we shall see.
    Circle back to the quote from Anandtech:

    "It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing"

    I'm sure we'll see an interesting deep dive from Andrei as soon as he gets his hands on a new iPhone.
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  • Reply 133 of 171
    Today's snarky comment: Just now catching the event on replay. Phil, I like your style, and your presentation and knowledge is substantial. But...Phil...how you've grown. And the long sleeves seem to cover your Apple Watch. You getting those rings closed?
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  • Reply 134 of 171
    Jordanf1 said:
    All I can says 2500 Aud for a phone is now getting ridiculous.  
    Sorry its not really Apple's fault your currency isn't worth much these days. 
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  • Reply 135 of 171

    dicebier1 said:
    Just wondering....are you working as a PR rep for Apple? People....check his threads....its ridiculous, he critisizes anyone who doesn't drink every ounce of cool aid that is poured by Apple.

    and as far as me "reading up" on Apple's history? Cmon man....

    iPhone 1 was REVOLUTIONARY
    iPhone 4 was REVOLUTIONARY
    iPhone 7 was arguably the best iPhone made
    Biometrics was REVOLUTIONARY 

    there were plenty of REVOLUTIONARY products released in the past 10 years so please show me a post where you don't defend anything that Apple shows you.

    BTW don't EVEN call me a troll, I love Apple and their products and their ecosystem BUT I will call out when something deserves a yawn.

    Apparently you won't
    Sounds like a troll to me... /s
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  • Reply 136 of 171
    MplsPmplsp Posts: 4,107member
    If you think that 5G is about "faster loading web pages" you may need to read up a bit more on it.

    I agree there was no need for an Apple 5G phone this year since the technology it's still a couple of years away. But by next year this time, it will probably be quite different, especially vis-a-vis someone who keeps their iPhones for a few years before upgrading.
    5G:
     - faster speeds. 4G is more than enough, if you can get good 4G speeds. If I can’t even get 4G, why should I be able to get 5G?
    - lower latency. Maybe nice for VR gaming. Most of us don’t do that. Remote surgery? Nope, not on my iPhone. *maybe* for flying a drone, but the type of flight that needs ultra low latency is also pretty uncommon
    - IoT: doesn’t affect my phone
    - self driving cars: see above. Those are still a ways off
    - ‘more devices’ as I understand it, that means more devices connected per node. Unclear what benefits this may have. Possibly faster average speeds per device during times of congestion, but ultimately that depends on the backbone. 

    have I missed anything? 
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  • Reply 137 of 171
    KITA said:
    Circle back to the quote from Anandtech:

    "It’s not clear if this is actually both improvements at the same time or either of them – last year it ended up actually being either one or the other based on our testing"

    I'm sure we'll see an interesting deep dive from Andrei as soon as he gets his hands on a new iPhone.
    Judging by today's keynote I assume it will precisely manage different areas of the chip, which could make different tasks to run more efficiently.  Not everything is a burn test, which I'm sure it won't have many advantages there.
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  • Reply 138 of 171
    dicebier1 said:
    Just wondering....are you working as a PR rep for Apple? People....check his threads....its ridiculous, he critisizes anyone who doesn't drink every ounce of cool aid that is poured by Apple.

    and as far as me "reading up" on Apple's history? Cmon man....

    iPhone 1 was REVOLUTIONARY
    iPhone 4 was REVOLUTIONARY
    iPhone 7 was arguably the best iPhone made
    Biometrics was REVOLUTIONARY 

    there were plenty of REVOLUTIONARY products released in the past 10 years so please show me a post where you don't defend anything that Apple shows you.

    BTW don't EVEN call me a troll, I love Apple and their products and their ecosystem BUT I will call out when something deserves a yawn.

    Apparently you won't
    Well, if he don't, this forum will end up like MacRumors.

    Pick your poison, that's just the reality of Apple Forums today.
    edited September 2019
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  • Reply 139 of 171
    KITA said:
    20%, not 50%. T

    That's about in-line with ARM's own designs for their medium sized A77 core:



    Still, that shouldn't take away from the entire package. The A13 is an impressive SoC.
    Well, not every 20% improvement is equal.
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  • Reply 140 of 171
    MplsPmplsp Posts: 4,107member
    AR is a feature that's gonna rely heavily on 5G. And we all know how Tim Cook feels about AR.
    AR has been ‘coming’ for years. It hasn’t amounted to anything yet and I doubt 5G will make it amount to anything. 
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