Trump Mobile's made-in-US iPhone 17 competitor is really made in China

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  • Reply 21 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    Interesting. Reporting indicates it's not actually being done by the Trump organization, but rather they are licensing the name to another MVNO organization. So The Trump organization is not that involved other than licensing the name? We will see what information comes out. Not a fan of this move at all. Can't really trust a trhid party with the kinds of claims being made. Recipe for PR disaster. Nobody wants politicians THIS involved in their daily life, even if it's in name only. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. And that gold color... not good. 

    on the plus side (I guess), customer service is in the USA (St. Louis). 
    Also, they are indeed claiming that the phone will be manufactured int he USA. We will see what that actually means.

    The graphics on the phone are so old looking. Like an elementary school art project. Perhaps they are aiming for an elderly audience (especially with the built in Telehealth features) of die hard supporters rather than mass market - even though the website has youngish/middle aged people represented. Even the marketing graphics are pretty bad. They look like a blog thumbnail rather than anything professional (harsh drop shadows, inconsistencies, etc).
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  • Reply 22 of 160
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,184administrator
    Interesting. Reporting indicates it's not actually being done by the Trump organization, but rather they are licensing the name to another MVNO organization. So The Trump organization is not that involved other than licensing the name? We will see what information comes out. Not a fan of this move at all. Can't really trust a trhid party with the kinds of claims being made. Recipe for PR disaster. Nobody wants politicians THIS involved in their daily life, even if it's in name only. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. And that gold color... not good. 

    on the plus side (I guess), customer service is in the USA.
    Eric Trump made the rounds this morning celebrating this, so I don't think "just licensing" is the escape that the Trump Organization is looking for.
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  • Reply 23 of 160
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,531member
    Interesting. Reporting indicates it's not actually being done by the Trump organization, but rather they are licensing the name to another MVNO organization. So The Trump organization is not that involved other than licensing the name? We will see what information comes out. Not a fan of this move at all. Can't really trust a trhid party with the kinds of claims being made. Recipe for PR disaster. Nobody wants politicians THIS involved in their daily life, even if it's in name only. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. And that gold color... not good. 

    on the plus side (I guess), customer service is in the USA (St. Louis). 
    Also, they are indeed claiming that the phone will be manufactured int he USA. We will see what that actually means.
    Building nothing but licensing the name has been the  Trump Organization’s business model for a very long time. 

    Product specs and imagery are almost certainly the result of a ChatGPT query. This thing is vaporware. The question is, what’s the angle in the grift? Collect $100 deposits from MAGA faithful and never deliver?

    The claim this will in any way be Made in the USA makes it impossible for a phone to ever make it into anyone’s hands. The lack of a factory, actual phone prototypes or any verifiable evidence this exists outside of a website means the window for this grift is incredibly short. 
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  • Reply 24 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    Interesting. Reporting indicates it's not actually being done by the Trump organization, but rather they are licensing the name to another MVNO organization. So The Trump organization is not that involved other than licensing the name? We will see what information comes out. Not a fan of this move at all. Can't really trust a trhid party with the kinds of claims being made. Recipe for PR disaster. Nobody wants politicians THIS involved in their daily life, even if it's in name only. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. And that gold color... not good. 

    on the plus side (I guess), customer service is in the USA.
    Eric Trump made the rounds this morning celebrating this, so I don't think "just licensing" is the escape that the Trump Organization is looking for.
    Saw that. Not so great. Looks like a startup product and service launch. Not like what it actually is. Not the end of the world world, but certainly not the best look either. I think they are focusing on the US based nature of most if not all of the service (remains to be seen how far that actually goes). I don't think they are looking for an escape - since they are just pushing the thing now, but not very upfront about the underlying details of the business. 

    Looks like their plans work with existing phones also, whether iPhone or Android. Can see some older folks going for this, but not too much of anyone else, especially considering the actual licensing nature of this will make headlines everywhere and people won't be so thrilled. 

    Telecommunication is a money-maker though, so wouldn't be surprised to see many more getting involved in this kind of thing - it's something Apple was rumored to do in the early days of iPhone. 
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  • Reply 25 of 160
    Xedxed Posts: 3,258member
    AppleZulu said:
    Interesting. Reporting indicates it's not actually being done by the Trump organization, but rather they are licensing the name to another MVNO organization. So The Trump organization is not that involved other than licensing the name? We will see what information comes out. Not a fan of this move at all. Can't really trust a trhid party with the kinds of claims being made. Recipe for PR disaster. Nobody wants politicians THIS involved in their daily life, even if it's in name only. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. And that gold color... not good. 

    on the plus side (I guess), customer service is in the USA (St. Louis). 
    Also, they are indeed claiming that the phone will be manufactured int he USA. We will see what that actually means.
    Building nothing but licensing the name has been the  Trump Organization’s business model for a very long time. 

    Product specs and imagery are almost certainly the result of a ChatGPT query. This thing is vaporware. The question is, what’s the angle in the grift? Collect $100 deposits from MAGA faithful and never deliver?

    The claim this will in any way be Made in the USA makes it impossible for a phone to ever make it into anyone’s hands. The lack of a factory, actual phone prototypes or any verifiable evidence this exists outside of a website means the window for this grift is incredibly short. 
    I wonder if this Felonious Fone also comes from that shell company in Wyoming.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/politics/trump-watches-wyoming-invs
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/are-trumps-swiss-made-watches-from-wyoming.html
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  • Reply 26 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    Apparently Liberty Mobile is the company behind the whole thing. And uses the same "graphic designers" as the licensed name service. :(
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  • Reply 27 of 160
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,214member
    Business-wise, makes sense for the family organization to do this. Capitalize on popularity and make some money. 
    No, it doesn’t make sense, because that’s unethical and wrong. It’s why we ask presidents to divest prior to coming into office. It only makes sense if one is void of ethics and doesn’t mind doing wrong. 
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  • Reply 28 of 160
    netroxnetrox Posts: 1,577member
    I am betting that Trump phone will be used to harvest user data and to pump their propaganda into users. 
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  • Reply 29 of 160
    hugo62hugo62 Posts: 11member
    saarek said:
    “designed and built in the United States.”. I think that most people, even Americans, would consider that wording to mean that a company came up with the design in the USA and that said company then manufactured said device in the USA for sale.

    However, I suppose one could say that designing the phone by selecting parts already on the market and then building the phone by having the various parts put together in their final stage in the USA would, technically, qualify.

    I mean, if a person ‘designed’ their own prefab house from, say, Sweden, by using a website that lets them pick and choose parts. And then that person arranged for a local builder to put it all together they could claim that they “designed my own house and had it built by a local builder.”

    To be fair, a lot of the iPhone is not really custom either. From the displays to usb c ports, much of the device is available to other companies from the same manufacturers.
    I suspect your comment “a lot of the iPhone is not really custom either. From the displays to usb c ports, much of the device is available to other companies from the same manufacturers” is factually incorrect..
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  • Reply 30 of 160
    hugo62hugo62 Posts: 11member
    America…. What were y’all thinking 🙄
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  • Reply 31 of 160
    Xedxed Posts: 3,258member
    saarek said:
    “designed and built in the United States.”. I think that most people, even Americans, would consider that wording to mean that a company came up with the design in the USA and that said company then manufactured said device in the USA for sale.

    However, I suppose one could say that designing the phone by selecting parts already on the market and then building the phone by having the various parts put together in their final stage in the USA would, technically, qualify.

    I mean, if a person ‘designed’ their own prefab house from, say, Sweden, by using a website that lets them pick and choose parts. And then that person arranged for a local builder to put it all together they could claim that they “designed my own house and had it built by a local builder.”

    To be fair, a lot of the iPhone is not really custom either. From the displays to usb c ports, much of the device is available to other companies from the same manufacturers.
    You're absolutely right. Nothing in the iPhone is original or unique. In fact, every single atom existed long before Apple was a company... and even before actual apples existed. It's all just various combinations of elements. Even the software is just a variation on ones and zeros. Nothing unique there.
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  • Reply 32 of 160
    Whoa. Even has a 5000mAh long life camera according to the website. Look out iPhone. 
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  • Reply 33 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    hugo62 said: America…. What were y’all thinking?
    I guess they were thinking it's nice that we can try to so stuff here, wo why not? It's to likely to succeed, but you can try. The market will decide if it lives or dies.
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  • Reply 34 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    Business-wise, makes sense for the family organization to do this. Capitalize on popularity and make some money. 
    No, it doesn’t make sense, because that’s unethical and wrong. It’s why we ask presidents to divest prior to coming into office. It only makes sense if one is void of ethics and doesn’t mind doing wrong. 
    Is the president involved? I thought his family took it over in 2017. Or is the family not allowed to make a marketing connection to the fact that their father was and is the President? Donald Trump Jr. is not Donald Trump Sr. 
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  • Reply 35 of 160
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,531member
    Business-wise, makes sense for the family organization to do this. Capitalize on popularity and make some money. 
    No, it doesn’t make sense, because that’s unethical and wrong. It’s why we ask presidents to divest prior to coming into office. It only makes sense if one is void of ethics and doesn’t mind doing wrong. 
    Is the president involved? I thought his family took it over in 2017. Or is the family not allowed to make a marketing connection to the fact that their father was and is the President? Donald Trump Jr. is not Donald Trump Sr. 
    You thought wrong. Yes, the president is involved. He is enriching himself while in office, profiting from the very same industries which he affects with tariffs, executive orders and social media posts. He is doing crypto currency deals with foreign countries while making state visits. 

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2025/05/06/trump-organization-admits-president-still-controls-his-business-in-new-filing/


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  • Reply 36 of 160
    i can't believe anyone with more than two brain cells would put their money anywhere near a company that advertises a "5,000 mAh long life camera". they don't even know what they're talking about. key tell-tale sign of a SCAM. i almost feel bad for anyone who falls for this. but at the same time i also know the only people who would consider buying this phone are just obsessed with trump.
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  • Reply 37 of 160
    Gosh, you know what might really impact American phone companies? A big tariff on all phones not Made in America! But if you launch a new brand, and intimate that your new phone is Made in America (even if it is only to slap a 47 and 45 and with some gold paint), there are plenty of red hatted fools who will happily throw money their way. Never mind that recent reports suggest that the tariffs could cause the price of the iPhone to exceed $3000, and it might take ten years before there is sufficient manufacturing capacity stateside to offer a phone that is fully Made in America.
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  • Reply 38 of 160
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,661member
    AppleZulu said:
    Business-wise, makes sense for the family organization to do this. Capitalize on popularity and make some money. 
    No, it doesn’t make sense, because that’s unethical and wrong. It’s why we ask presidents to divest prior to coming into office. It only makes sense if one is void of ethics and doesn’t mind doing wrong. 
    Is the president involved? I thought his family took it over in 2017. Or is the family not allowed to make a marketing connection to the fact that their father was and is the President? Donald Trump Jr. is not Donald Trump Sr. 
    You thought wrong. Yes, the president is involved. He is enriching himself while in office, profiting from the very same industries which he affects with tariffs, executive orders and social media posts. He is doing crypto currency deals with foreign countries while making state visits. 

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2025/05/06/trump-organization-admits-president-still-controls-his-business-in-new-filing/


    So we are using British rules now?
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  • Reply 39 of 160
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,642member
    hugo62 said:
    saarek said:
    “designed and built in the United States.”. I think that most people, even Americans, would consider that wording to mean that a company came up with the design in the USA and that said company then manufactured said device in the USA for sale.

    However, I suppose one could say that designing the phone by selecting parts already on the market and then building the phone by having the various parts put together in their final stage in the USA would, technically, qualify.

    I mean, if a person ‘designed’ their own prefab house from, say, Sweden, by using a website that lets them pick and choose parts. And then that person arranged for a local builder to put it all together they could claim that they “designed my own house and had it built by a local builder.”

    To be fair, a lot of the iPhone is not really custom either. From the displays to usb c ports, much of the device is available to other companies from the same manufacturers.
    I suspect your comment “a lot of the iPhone is not really custom either. From the displays to usb c ports, much of the device is available to other companies from the same manufacturers” is factually incorrect..
    Let's see.

    Qualcomm modems, primarily Samsung displays, Broadcomm GPS chips, Sony camera sensor, USB port seems likely to be from a mixture of manufacturers, etc. Obviously things like the SOC are custom and Apple may well partner with the likes of Sony for iPhone specific image sensors. Still, I think it is fair to assume that quite a few parts are interchangeable, why reinvent the wheel for no benefit.
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  • Reply 40 of 160
    anthogaganthogag Posts: 124member
    There is no question, this is a money-greedy US President taking advantage of his circumstances. His phone is made in the US like the bible he sells that was claimed to be printed in the US but was printed in China. How many strikes does it take for this guy to really look like a greedy opportunistic gas-lighting authoritarian dictator to his admirers/sheeple? 
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