Trump's new China trade deal is still bad for US business & consumers

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Trump has signed a trade deal with China that will see it withdraw the rare minerals ban that affects iPhones, though it still leaves US consumers paying far more for imported goods.

Tim Cook and Donald Trump in a meeting at the White House in 2018
Tim Cook and Donald Trump in a meeting at the White House in 2018



Among the responses to Trump's "reciprocal" tariffs, China halted rare earth mineral exports in April 2025. Now according to multiple sources including Reuters, that ban may be lifted.

There are few details so far, and no confirmation of whether all such rare mineral exports will resume. The news broke as Trump casually mentioned "we signed with China yesterday," and officials subsequently revealed that the deal was made earlier in the week.

What is being said repeatedly is that in return for the rare earth minerals, the US will ease its restrictions on Chinese technology. It's believed that this means the US dropping or reducing export constraints on materials such as ethane, which is used in processor manufacture.

"The administration and China agreed to an additional understanding for a framework to implement the Geneva agreement," said a White House official. The official also said that this understanding is "about how we can implement expediting rare earths shipments to the U.S. again."

There is of course also no information all about when shipments may resume, but US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has implied that the US will wait for China to make the first move.

"They're going to deliver rare earths to us," Lutnick said, and then "we'll take down our countermeasures."

Trump has also said that there may be a separate deal coming that would shortly "open up" India.

Lutnick has further said that there will be a series of key trade deals finalized in the next two weeks. He said this is to meet Trump's July 9 deadline to reinstate the higher tariffs he paused in April.

"We're going to do top ten deals, put them in the right category, and then these other countries will fit behind," said Lutnick.

"Those who have deals will have deals, and everybody else that is negotiating with us, they'll get a response from us and then they'll go into that package," he continued. "If people want to come back and negotiate further, they're entitled to, but that tariff rate will be set and off we'll go"

Lutnick did not name any of the claimed ten deals, nor confirm that India was one of them.

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While any deal between the US and China must be preferable to the volatile impact of the "reciprocal" tariffs, there is too little detail yet to determine if trade tensions will be significantly reduced.

However, China's halting of rare earth minerals was not solely for the import of such materials into the continental US. If it had been, then the chief impact on Apple would be in however much it affected the TSMC operation in Arizona.

What China did, though, was require all buyers to be approved through new licensing regulations. It's not known whether this also affected TSMC in Taiwan, but according to law firm Taylor Wessing, it did have unexpected impacts across the world.

Plus on June 11, 2025, Trump said on social media that the forthcoming deal with China would see the US "getting a total of 55% tariffs." As ever, tariffs are paid by the companies importing goods, never by the providing country as Trump routinely claims.

So if the final deal does include this claimed tariff, Apple and all US companies that import from China will face steeper costs than before. Prior to the start of Trump's "reciprocal" announcement in April, which had nothing to do with tariffs applied by other countries, US companies were paying around 15% in tariffs, and Apple was paying significantly less.

Apple has already announced that it expects to spend $900 million on tariffs in its June quarter. Plus it made many costly changes to its global distribution lines to mitigate as much of the tariff impact as it could, but it remains that higher costs will surely be passed on to consumers.




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  • Reply 1 of 52
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    30 years ago people took the the streets in states across the US to protest the move towards globalization with protests agains NAFTA  and WTO and now the predictable results are here and the US politicians most who were adults back in the mid 90s themselves are telling the citizens they should pay more for what their mistake.   There is no accountability for what was an obvious bad move.  Citizens did not cause the trade imbalance in fact it cost us in lost jobs. 
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  • Reply 2 of 52
    JamesCudejamescude Posts: 113member
    It’s a great deal- if you’re a billionaire.
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  • Reply 3 of 52
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.
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  • Reply 4 of 52
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,184administrator
    jcintron said:
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.
    Sure, I'll bite. How is US business paying 3x more in tariffs to import a product good, and where did the author say anything about Democrats? How is Apple paying almost a billion more IN THIS QUARTER to deal with the tariffs good?

    If you want to argue the points, go ahead. Complaining about the author as a way of complaining about the points is logically fallacious.
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  • Reply 5 of 52
    I see that Apple is treated very unfairly.
    But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy. 
    I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices. 
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  • Reply 6 of 52
    anthogaganthogag Posts: 125member
    Dictator Trump and his puppets can gaslight the US 24/7, tariffs are still a tax on everything coming into the US.

    I imagine tariffs will somehow be used to counter his "beautiful bill". The beautiful bill will cut services and programs. Tariffs will make everyday purchases more expensive. Hmmm.
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  • Reply 7 of 52
    jcintron said:
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.
    Name one good thing the orange man has done in the last decade.

    For me, he only gets partial credit for Operation Warp Speed, which was negated by duping his supporters into rejecting vaccines and appointing RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary.


    PS. Not shitting into his diaper this morning doesn't count.


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  • Reply 8 of 52
    I don't know where the saying originated but Molly Ivins was the first person I heard use, anyway it goes; "It's one thing to step on your own d!ck, it's another to jump up and down on it yelling 'Hey! Look at me'." The Trump administration are the masters of the latter. 

    They created the problem and now want credit for a partial fix? Where is the actual trade deal? Is China going invest in manufacturing in the U.S.? Nope. Is China going to enter advanced manufacturing technology sharing agreement with the U.S.? Nope. Is China going to address fentanyl imports coming from China to the U.S.? Nope. Are American's going to pay higher taxes for goods? Yep, and that is it. This doesn't even constitute a trade deal. It's a tax increase and that is it. 
     
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  • Reply 9 of 52
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,644member
    JamesCude said:
    It’s a great deal- if you’re a billionaire.
    Yep. And it's billionaires saying "Just hang in there. Sure it will get worse, for you, but it will get better". Half truth half lie. Yes it will get worse for us, no it won't get better.

    I see that Apple is treated very unfairly.
    But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy. 
    I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices. 
    It isn't just Apple that's being treated unfairly. It's pretty much anyone importing anything into the US. I'm curious to see if the "Trump Phone" ever ships and at what price compared to the current quoted prices, since it's NOT "Made in USA" as was originally stated. The walked that back quickly. It smells like vaporware, but I hope it's not and MAGAts everywhere buy it. Well except that it also means money in Trump's pocket.

    What does But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy even mean? You think they're not going to pass on any cost increase to the customer?

    "I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices." Huh? You don't think Apple paying almost a $Billion more in tariffs in one quarter isn't heavily affected by rising prices/tariffs? Or do you mean Apple will not be heavily affected, because they'll be raising prices? Either Apple doesn't raise prices and eats the increase costs, they pass them on to customers, or a little of each. You and I have a different definition of "heavily affected'.
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  • Reply 10 of 52
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,658member
    Interesting article. 

    As we’ve seen in this admin, things are always in motion and never stuck in the mud. 

    So we will see how these deals turn out for the long term benefit of America. 

    But one thing is for certain: something msjor had to be done. Constantly losing ground to other nations was not sustainable. Sure, you might get a cheaper iPhone today, but you may not even be able to get an iPhone tomorrow. 

    I’ll take long term over short term any day. 
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  • Reply 11 of 52
    macgui said:
    JamesCude said:
    It’s a great deal- if you’re a billionaire.
    Yep. And it's billionaires saying "Just hang in there. Sure it will get worse, for you, but it will get better". Half truth half lie. Yes it will get worse for us, no it won't get better.

    I see that Apple is treated very unfairly.
    But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy. 
    I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices. 
    It isn't just Apple that's being treated unfairly. It's pretty much anyone importing anything into the US. I'm curious to see if the "Trump Phone" ever ships and at what price compared to the current quoted prices, since it's NOT "Made in USA" as was originally stated. The walked that back quickly. It smells like vaporware, but I hope it's not and MAGAts everywhere buy it. Well except that it also means money in Trump's pocket.

    What does But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy even mean? You think they're not going to pass on any cost increase to the customer?

    "I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices." Huh? You don't think Apple paying almost a $Billion more in tariffs in one quarter isn't heavily affected by rising prices/tariffs? Or do you mean Apple will not be heavily affected, because they'll be raising prices? Either Apple doesn't raise prices and eats the increase costs, they pass them on to customers, or a little of each. You and I have a different definition of "heavily affected'.

    If I understand correctly, Apple has not raised their prices since iPhone 11 or 12 (Not even since Covid 19!!).
    In contrast to Apple, even Pringles, Milka, Snickers etc. have already raised their prices since Covid 19. 
    Basically, ALL goods have become more expensive since Covid 19.

    I have not seen dramatically increased prices at Apple tbh. 

    That´s what I mean "Friendly".
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  • Reply 12 of 52
    bloggerblogbloggerblog Posts: 2,615member
    jcintron said:
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.
    Both parties broke key promises that were made during their campaigns and were destructive to the interest of our country. But this agent-orange is at another level, he's gone above and beyond your typical corrupt president. He has managed to beat Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden, and even himself by dividing the country and alienating permanent residents as well as citizens all the while causing irreparable international damage.
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  • Reply 13 of 52
    Xedxed Posts: 3,258member
    jcintron said:
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.
    FOX News and OAN have never once made either of those claims.
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  • Reply 14 of 52
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,184administrator
    Interesting article. 

    As we’ve seen in this admin, things are always in motion and never stuck in the mud. 

    So we will see how these deals turn out for the long term benefit of America. 

    But one thing is for certain: something msjor had to be done. Constantly losing ground to other nations was not sustainable. Sure, you might get a cheaper iPhone today, but you may not even be able to get an iPhone tomorrow. 

    I’ll take long term over short term any day. 
    Except, there's no long-term gain to be had, and just more wealth shifting up away from the middle class to the upper on this path.

    If he really wanted to restore manufacturing to the US, he'd fund education to the maximum extent possible. We do not have the manufacturing manpower base or educated populace needed to do this!

    He and his party are doing the opposite.

    "Things are always in motion" is not a good thing for international trade relations or US businesses that don't know what to expect, or budget for, on a day-to-day basis.
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  • Reply 15 of 52
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,528member
    Interesting article. 

    As we’ve seen in this admin, things are always in motion and never stuck in the mud. 

    So we will see how these deals turn out for the long term benefit of America. 

    But one thing is for certain: something msjor had to be done. Constantly losing ground to other nations was not sustainable. Sure, you might get a cheaper iPhone today, but you may not even be able to get an iPhone tomorrow. 

    I’ll take long term over short term any day. 
    Creating chaos, flip-flopping through incoherent policy positions and then declaring victory after negotiating back some of the damage they’ve done are all one hundred percent “short term” actions. 

    It’s laughable that you try to spin ‘setting everything on fire because something major had to be done’ as a path to better long term results. 
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  • Reply 16 of 52
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,879member
    jcintron said:
    All mainstream media: Anything orange man does bad, Democrats good.


    A business deal is not a favorable one if it leaves you in a worse position than when you began. Is this the approach Donald “Taco Friday” Trump advocates for in “The Art of the Deal”? Once again, during the first 172-175 days of this administration, the Chinese and many other global entities are mocking the incompetence of the current administration. We require long-term planning, strategic thinking, and consistent oversight, but we currently lack these qualities.

    For instance, consider the proposed US-China deal and the potential release of additional Defense Department funds. This move will not alleviate China’s grip on military-grade rare-earth magnets. Mining and extracting these materials will necessitate long-term planning, substantial financial resources, and extensive supply lines. This endeavor will probably span 16 years across four administrations and require the cooperation of all parties involved, despite their current political differences.

    Furthermore, this situation highlights the extent of American infrastructure decay. Have you heard about the new Chinese-built airliner or the high-speed rail system being constructed in Thailand? The European and American responses have been to ignore the issue. This does not imply that all Chinese constructions are inherently superior. Instead, it is the iterative improvements, similar to Apple’s approach, that demonstrate their long range planning. Remember when Korean cars were not well-regarded in the mid-1980s? Today, they are widely praised and no longer elicit laughter.

    For reference, the high-speed rail system in Thailand is expected to be completed before California and Nevada.

    [Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Thailand]

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  • Reply 17 of 52
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,879member

    I see that Apple is treated very unfairly.
    But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy. 
    I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices. 
    Not according to Wall Street, Apple is more doomed than Tesla who is really getting clocked by BYD Worldwide.
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  • Reply 18 of 52
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,108member
    Trump: doing everything possible to destroy this economy and what’s left of the middle class.  It without help from the democrats, tho. We wouldn’t be in this position if they actually had a backbone. 
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  • Reply 19 of 52
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,658member
    Interesting article. 

    As we’ve seen in this admin, things are always in motion and never stuck in the mud. 

    So we will see how these deals turn out for the long term benefit of America. 

    But one thing is for certain: something msjor had to be done. Constantly losing ground to other nations was not sustainable. Sure, you might get a cheaper iPhone today, but you may not even be able to get an iPhone tomorrow. 

    I’ll take long term over short term any day. 
    Except, there's no long-term gain to be had, and just more wealth shifting up away from the middle class to the upper on this path.

    If he really wanted to restore manufacturing to the US, he'd fund education to the maximum extent possible. We do not have the manufacturing manpower base or educated populace needed to do this!

    He and his party are doing the opposite.

    "Things are always in motion" is not a good thing for international trade relations or US businesses that don't know what to expect, or budget for, on a day-to-day basis.
    It’s been 5 months. And the tarriffs less than that. And deals still in motion. Can hardly conclude what you’re saying from that. 

    Is it possible it doesn’t work as hoped? Sure. We live in an uncertain and imperfect world full of people acting in bad faith, etc. but is it worth a shot? 100%. The alternative is to continue to decline. One way it’s much closer to certainty of success is if one group of people stop attacking the guy every time he breathes, and gets behind what’s obviously a noble goal, things would go much smoother and have a better outcome. 

    Manpower is fully available. Have you looked at the unemployment rates? Education is a matter of training. Unfortunately, much of what passes for education today has little to do with reading, writing, and arithmetic. That’s thanks to a partisan led federal education department. The states do a better job. Almost anyone can learn how to do repetitive things, no matter how detailed. The key is starting. Sure it takes time. But it never happens unless you start. A lot of unemployed people today would love to have these jobs. 

    Things being in motion refers to the agility of the current admin and their near unprecedented ability to pivot in an instant, constantly evaluating and executing. Not just rolling with something bevause they already were heading in that direction. If it’s not advancing favorably, the smart thing to do is pivot. And keeping things in motion also helps guard against letting bad faith heads of state pin them down to bad deals. 

    China is tough. Bevause of the usa pressing the “easy button” decades ago, we have built up an enemy into being a major force on the world stage. It will not be easy to wean off of the “cheap” Chinese manufacturing, but it will be the wise thing to get started on. If not, the ISA will just keep declining until it’s no longer the superpower it has been. If the answer is not what the President is doing, it’s certainly not also the status quo - or worse, pouring even more money into our adversaries - or even other economies in general. 

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  • Reply 20 of 52
    Interesting article. 

    As we’ve seen in this admin, things are always in motion and never stuck in the mud. 

    So we will see how these deals turn out for the long term benefit of America. 

    But one thing is for certain: something msjor had to be done. Constantly losing ground to other nations was not sustainable. Sure, you might get a cheaper iPhone today, but you may not even be able to get an iPhone tomorrow. 

    I’ll take long term over short term any day. 
    Nothing major was done. They fiddled with tax rates (tariffs), wing ding diddly doo! 
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