<strong>i don't know how much the market will withstand, but i just don't NEED a 20 GB ipod. i don't know if anyone else feels this way, but i think the 10 gb is a sweet spot right now.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
True, perhaps, if the iPod were just for music and/or addresses, but what about...
Think Secret says that one of the "obvious" reasons that there will be no new PowerMacs is because of the new "Crystal Clear Savings" promotion Apple just started.
From MacMinute
[quote]
Apple offers new printer promotion
July 12 - 13:55 ETÂ*Â*Apple has launched a new Hot Deal promotion that offers a free Epson photo printer with the purchase of any iMac, eMac, or iBook. The "Print and Save" promotion offers a free Epson Stylus 820 printer or a US$100 rebate on any Epson Stylus Photo printer with a $100 suggested retail price or higher. The offer expires September 30, 2002.
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Does this mean that there will be no updates in the iMac either since it is included in the promotion?
I think using the promotion as their obvious reason for there not being new PowerMacs is a poor choice on their part.
<strong>i don't know how much the market will withstand, but i just don't NEED a 20 GB ipod. i don't know if anyone else feels this way, but i think the 10 gb is a sweet spot right now.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
nothin like having 4,000 songs in your pocket <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Lets see: 160Kbps = 20KB a second. So 20GB divided by 20KB/sec = 1,000,000 seconds, which = 16,667 minutes, which = 227.78 Hours, which = 11.57 Days straight without repeating a song. Wow! That?s crazy! (BTW: if you encode your music at 128Kbps you could squeeze in about 14.5 days)
Sorry if my math is off. My native language is caveman and we don?t have numbers.
Keep in mind TS confirmed a few days ago that the new towers would be in speeds "excess of" 1.2ghz, now today they are confirming speeds of at least 1.2ghz. So which is the real confirmation? Why does the new confirmation conflict with the old confirmation? Do they have confirmation that this new confirmation is really confirmed?
<strong>Keep in mind TS confirmed a few days ago that the new towers would be in speeds "excess of" 1.2ghz, now today they are confirming speeds of at least 1.2ghz. So which is the real confirmation?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Niether. They don't have any sources on this. If you say everything then at least some of it will end up being true.
<strong>Keep in mind TS confirmed a few days ago that the new towers would be in speeds "excess of" 1.2ghz, now today they are confirming speeds of at least 1.2ghz. So which is the real confirmation?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Where is the contradiction? Anything that's at least 1.2GHz is likely to be in excess of 1.2GHz, as I reckon things. The only difference is the boundary case at exactly 1.2GHz, and that seems more like a niggling vaguery in the language than a logical inconsistency.
Where is the contradiction? Anything that's at least 1.2GHz is likely to be in excess of 1.2GHz, as I reckon things. The only difference is the boundary case at exactly 1.2GHz, and that seems more like a niggling vaguery in the language than a logical inconsistency.
Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.
Both being confirmed, that's where I perceive the contradiction to be.
Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.
Both being confirmed, that's where I perceive the contradiction to be.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think what Amorph was saying is that if a chip is in excess of 1.2Ghz it IS at least 1.2Ghz.
I do see the contradiction though... They are just making sure they?re right... "I predict we will either have chips less than 1.2Ghz or more than 1.2Ghz"
<strong>Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, read that second one as "at least 1.2gHz for the low-end"...not the top-end.
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).
so this rtevolutionary anounencement will be held at august 13? Or at MWNY?
I really hope you are right.I really hope so.
Can you be more specific at what is gonna be so revolutionary.New kind of computer.Holograms?WHAT????
If it's gonna be a new computer why announce the G4 models?So I bet it's something that connects to a computer.A peripheral.What's so exciting with a peripheral.
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I guess Canyon24 clinches it. Nothing is going to happen Wednesday, and I'm evengoing to be there at the Keynote! Anybody else? Apple IS going to open their new SoHo store at 8 AM on 7/18, so maybe I'll just stroll over from the MacWorld and line up for my free tee right after Steve gives us One More Thing?iClone! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm guessing there will be an out-of-work dot.commer inside of every new Powermac. The cases will be HUGE, really really BIG.
Revolutionary - hell yes. It'll do things no Windows based PC can do - finally deliver on the promise of natural task computing: "When is my appointment with Bill", "Go get me some porn - no, better porn - yeah, that's more like it." Game AI has never been stronger. Voice recognition like never before, and the best text-to-speech on the market.
Here's my predicted lineup:
All systems ship with Xserve DDR.
1.0 GHz G4, combo drive, 40GB HD, web designer w/JavaScript and ASP experience: $1699.
1.2 GHz G4, Superdrive, 60GB HD, web application developer w/Oracle and Java experience: $2199.
20 gb iPod will be fine for me if it has a way to download my camera pictures to it when I'm on the road rather than starting up my TiBook ( which is hard to carry up into the mountains)
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]'m guessing there will be an out-of-work dot.commer inside of every new Powermac. The cases will be HUGE, really really BIG.
Revolutionary - hell yes. It'll do things no Windows based PC can do - finally deliver on the promise of natural task computing: "When is my appointment with Bill", "Go get me some porn - no, better porn - yeah, that's more like it." Game AI has never been stronger. Voice recognition like never before, and the best text-to-speech on the market.<hr></blockquote>
That is the single funniest thing I have read in this forum. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>"This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse)."
So it's an InkWell tablet. At least that seems like what you're hinting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
NO NO NO NO !!!!!
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
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<strong>i don't know how much the market will withstand, but i just don't NEED a 20 GB ipod. i don't know if anyone else feels this way, but i think the 10 gb is a sweet spot right now.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
True, perhaps, if the iPod were just for music and/or addresses, but what about...
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: LudwigVan ]</p>
From MacMinute
[quote]
Apple offers new printer promotion
July 12 - 13:55 ETÂ*Â*Apple has launched a new Hot Deal promotion that offers a free Epson photo printer with the purchase of any iMac, eMac, or iBook. The "Print and Save" promotion offers a free Epson Stylus 820 printer or a US$100 rebate on any Epson Stylus Photo printer with a $100 suggested retail price or higher. The offer expires September 30, 2002.
<hr></blockquote>
Does this mean that there will be no updates in the iMac either since it is included in the promotion?
I think using the promotion as their obvious reason for there not being new PowerMacs is a poor choice on their part.
Holding out hope for new PowerMacs at MWNY.
_aarons
<strong>i don't know how much the market will withstand, but i just don't NEED a 20 GB ipod. i don't know if anyone else feels this way, but i think the 10 gb is a sweet spot right now.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
nothin like having 4,000 songs in your pocket <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Lets see: 160Kbps = 20KB a second. So 20GB divided by 20KB/sec = 1,000,000 seconds, which = 16,667 minutes, which = 227.78 Hours, which = 11.57 Days straight without repeating a song. Wow! That?s crazy! (BTW: if you encode your music at 128Kbps you could squeeze in about 14.5 days)
Sorry if my math is off. My native language is caveman and we don?t have numbers.
Sounds like it can be confirmed that TS is BS.
I've only filled about 1.5GB on mine. It gets more use as a FireWire drive than an MP3 player.
Then again, it wasn't that long ago that we all thought 250MB hard drives were bigger than we could possibly use.
<strong>Keep in mind TS confirmed a few days ago that the new towers would be in speeds "excess of" 1.2ghz, now today they are confirming speeds of at least 1.2ghz. So which is the real confirmation?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Niether. They don't have any sources on this. If you say everything then at least some of it will end up being true.
<strong>Keep in mind TS confirmed a few days ago that the new towers would be in speeds "excess of" 1.2ghz, now today they are confirming speeds of at least 1.2ghz. So which is the real confirmation?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Where is the contradiction? Anything that's at least 1.2GHz is likely to be in excess of 1.2GHz, as I reckon things. The only difference is the boundary case at exactly 1.2GHz, and that seems more like a niggling vaguery in the language than a logical inconsistency.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
<strong>
Where is the contradiction? Anything that's at least 1.2GHz is likely to be in excess of 1.2GHz, as I reckon things. The only difference is the boundary case at exactly 1.2GHz, and that seems more like a niggling vaguery in the language than a logical inconsistency.
[ 07-12-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.
Both being confirmed, that's where I perceive the contradiction to be.
<strong>
Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.
Both being confirmed, that's where I perceive the contradiction to be.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think what Amorph was saying is that if a chip is in excess of 1.2Ghz it IS at least 1.2Ghz.
I do see the contradiction though... They are just making sure they?re right... "I predict we will either have chips less than 1.2Ghz or more than 1.2Ghz"
<strong>Well, first they confirmed all towers would be in excess of 1.2ghz, read-every tower faster then 1.2ghz. Now they are confirming that all towers will at least be 1.2ghz, read- 1.2ghz as the top end.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, read that second one as "at least 1.2gHz for the low-end"...not the top-end.
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).
So it's an InkWell tablet. At least that seems like what you're hinting.
I really hope you are right.I really hope so.
Can you be more specific at what is gonna be so revolutionary.New kind of computer.Holograms?WHAT????
If it's gonna be a new computer why announce the G4 models?So I bet it's something that connects to a computer.A peripheral.What's so exciting with a peripheral.
I hope you are right.But I doubt it...
If you are implying inkwell than I guess you have to check on your dictionary the word revolution
<strong>Ok boys,
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I guess Canyon24 clinches it. Nothing is going to happen Wednesday, and I'm evengoing to be there at the Keynote! Anybody else? Apple IS going to open their new SoHo store at 8 AM on 7/18, so maybe I'll just stroll over from the MacWorld and line up for my free tee right after Steve gives us One More Thing?iClone! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm guessing there will be an out-of-work dot.commer inside of every new Powermac. The cases will be HUGE, really really BIG.
Revolutionary - hell yes. It'll do things no Windows based PC can do - finally deliver on the promise of natural task computing: "When is my appointment with Bill", "Go get me some porn - no, better porn - yeah, that's more like it." Game AI has never been stronger. Voice recognition like never before, and the best text-to-speech on the market.
Here's my predicted lineup:
All systems ship with Xserve DDR.
1.0 GHz G4, combo drive, 40GB HD, web designer w/JavaScript and ASP experience: $1699.
1.2 GHz G4, Superdrive, 60GB HD, web application developer w/Oracle and Java experience: $2199.
1.4 GHz G4, Superdrive, 2x80GB HD, network engineer w/Cisco certification: $2799.
But seriously, thanks for the straight-up post.
<strong>Ok boys,
I know that the thought of new PowerMacs is exciting, but the reason that the rumors are so contradictory, and diverse is because that is what Steve wants. There WILL be new powermacs, at the show. Announced on Wednesday, by Steve. Here is the catch...
The new powermacs will be G4 (1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, and 1.4Ghz, with the 867Mhz available for education cheap.) ALL will be available build to order DUAL processors. There have been some changes to the motherboard, including the bus(es). And of course the new case, as I have describe in another forum.
But the real exciting part: the new powermacs will be a MINOR announcement on Wednesday. Steve will be talking about something HUGE, really really BIG.
This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse).</strong><hr></blockquote>
This got anything to do with the REALLY BIG stuff
<a href="http://www.elgato.com/eye.html" target="_blank">http://www.elgato.com/eye.html</a>
Revolutionary - hell yes. It'll do things no Windows based PC can do - finally deliver on the promise of natural task computing: "When is my appointment with Bill", "Go get me some porn - no, better porn - yeah, that's more like it." Game AI has never been stronger. Voice recognition like never before, and the best text-to-speech on the market.<hr></blockquote>
That is the single funniest thing I have read in this forum. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>"This will literally revolutionize computers, and the way we use them. (no not a new keyboard or a mouse)."
So it's an InkWell tablet. At least that seems like what you're hinting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
NO NO NO NO !!!!!
It is not a peripheral or a computer, it's a whole new perspective on using computers. Manipulating Photoshop files is NOTHING, child's play. Real time editing digital video is so DONE.
Inkwell tablet, GIVE ME A BREAK!