Well we should be pretty close at this point since there are apparently no obvious changes from 7F32 to 7F38. 70MB or so... should definitely result in better performance for *some* users. Or you would think so anyway.
So no one knows when its going to be out? I'm just going nuts over it, because I'm one of those people that bought a GeForce 4 ti, I know it could run much better than it does at the moment. Are these drivers in 10.3.3 going to make it work better? And will startup time shorten?
The worst is, it doesn't matter how long the stupid testing phase takes...there are going to be problems just like every other point releases. Now we're just waiting for those problems instead of having them now.
Doesn't Apple normally release these updates late Friday/early Saturday?
I figure it's to allow people to find the big problems over the weekend so they know people doing the update on their work computers on Monday aren't going to have a bad day.
Not really. I just think it's stupid to sit on an update like this. As another poster put it, we all know there will be problems with it because Apple doesn't test with enough real world configurations and users. So let's get on with it.
Not really. I just think it's stupid to sit on an update like this. As another poster put it, we all know there will be problems with it because Apple doesn't test with enough real world configurations and users. So let's get on with it.
So you're volunteering to be the guy whose hard drive is wiped?
So you're volunteering to be the guy whose hard drive is wiped?
Sweet!
Then the rest of us can use it with no worries.
Damn straight I'd test for Apple, but they've closed their "Apple Seed" program for a long time now. So volunteering is somewhat worthless. I've beta-tested for about 6-7 different software vendors, including hard disk programs that really can wipe a drive. You just set up a test HD. It's not difficult.
Damn straight I'd test for Apple, but they've closed their "Apple Seed" program for a long time now. So volunteering is somewhat worthless. I've beta-tested for about 6-7 different software vendors, including hard disk programs that really can wipe a drive. You just set up a test HD. It's not difficult.
Right. And we *all* have test drives set up for that untested 10.3.3 release to play in.
You missed the point. The more testing they do, the less chances there are for a major nasty bug to bite some customer in the butt. Which in turn bites Apple on the butt in a big PR way.
Now, if you're stepping up to be that One Customer for whom Everything Goes Wrong, be my guest.
(I have also been a long time tester of Apple products, back to the Atlas and Hera days... ah, if only you kids knew how good you've got it...)
No, if you don't have the setup, you don't test. I'm glad you've tested in the past for Apple. They could use you today (10.2.8, 10.3 to name two). I too have tested going back about 15 years, though not for Apple. Apple could use more testing but not more delays.
If Apple is fixing prebinding in the latest build as reported by fryke's site, I hope it addresses an irritating problem with applications (not Apple's system files). Although most installers report that they are "optimizing" after installing (actually prebinding) and prebinding is supposed to be done once and forget it, in actuality many applications are prebound over and over again each time they are launched. Check your system log file to confirm this. On my system, this happens with every program launched at startup as well as more than a few launched during the normal day. This problem cannot be solved by forcing a re-prebinding of the Applications folder (I use Cocktail to do it). I don't know what the problem is, but it shouldn't be happening.
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Also, I hope .3 puts connected share (SMB&AFP) into the side pane of Finder windows.
Oh...the Apple testers suck, BTW.
Originally posted by mcsjgs
Another day, another no show. This is getting old.
i bet you really go through the maalox.
I figure it's to allow people to find the big problems over the weekend so they know people doing the update on their work computers on Monday aren't going to have a bad day.
Keep hitting that "Check Now" button guys!
I'll wait until my Mac has it already downloaded.
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
i bet you really go through the maalox.
Not really. I just think it's stupid to sit on an update like this. As another poster put it, we all know there will be problems with it because Apple doesn't test with enough real world configurations and users. So let's get on with it.
Originally posted by mcsjgs
Not really. I just think it's stupid to sit on an update like this. As another poster put it, we all know there will be problems with it because Apple doesn't test with enough real world configurations and users. So let's get on with it.
So you're volunteering to be the guy whose hard drive is wiped?
Sweet!
Then the rest of us can use it with no worries.
Originally posted by Kickaha
So you're volunteering to be the guy whose hard drive is wiped?
Sweet!
Then the rest of us can use it with no worries.
Damn straight I'd test for Apple, but they've closed their "Apple Seed" program for a long time now. So volunteering is somewhat worthless. I've beta-tested for about 6-7 different software vendors, including hard disk programs that really can wipe a drive. You just set up a test HD. It's not difficult.
Originally posted by mcsjgs
Damn straight I'd test for Apple, but they've closed their "Apple Seed" program for a long time now. So volunteering is somewhat worthless. I've beta-tested for about 6-7 different software vendors, including hard disk programs that really can wipe a drive. You just set up a test HD. It's not difficult.
Right. And we *all* have test drives set up for that untested 10.3.3 release to play in.
You missed the point. The more testing they do, the less chances there are for a major nasty bug to bite some customer in the butt. Which in turn bites Apple on the butt in a big PR way.
Now, if you're stepping up to be that One Customer for whom Everything Goes Wrong, be my guest.
(I have also been a long time tester of Apple products, back to the Atlas and Hera days... ah, if only you kids knew how good you've got it...)
Originally posted by fryke
But nothing much new to report... Build feels finished, as did 7F34 and 7F38.
Checking the BOM on the packages would tell you exactly what Apple has ben changing in these newer builds...