AND...if you give a woman great sex, she will be all over you. She won't be able to keep her hands off you. Shoes will be absolutely the LAST thing on her mind. Well...that's MY opinion anyway. heh.
Great enjoyment, too, for the guy to give it. Some variety in this department is called for, however. You don't want to be mechanical about what you do.
And, as for the general question in this thread, may I add "babies". We have moved beyond the days when women were viewed as child factories, but that does not mean that many, wonderful, talented, and sexy women do not also want babies. It's a natural urge.
Reading all these posts. I agree, woman deserve total respect. But here's where I get confused. Why do women not like the 'nice guys'. All these qualities listed, honesty, trust, respect, etc. Bad boys don't usuallly offer this, yet nice guys get told, you're too nice. Or I have been told so, and seen others suffer the same fate. Case in point, last girl I dated, great first date, I bought dinner, ended the evening with a foot rub and little kissing. Second date, brought flowers to her at work and took her out to lunch. Tells me to keep my July weekends free to go away with her, and then promptly stops speaking to me. What do you woman want, because it seems so damn elusive!
Men need to stop thinking that what goes on in porno movies is what women actually want them to do. Those women get paid to make enjoyment noises. Real life women might also make those noises but it is more likely to make you hurry up and stop.
I cringe if I see cunnilingus in any typical porno movie. It's always the same dog-lapping-at-the-water-bowl monotony that couldn't possibly satisfy a woman. And the shaking the head left and right thing is hilarious. (particularly if the guy has a cowlick).
Women want heat, wet, and variable speed and a good deal of listening to her and judging her movements to maximize the timing of the orgasms. Slow is very good, not merely speed. Stiff tongue but also soft.
Yes, pleasing her first is my golden rule and I get all I need during and after. Give them true orgasms and you can't get rid of them if you wanted to.
First few girlfriends i had it was rather basic sex, mostly for my pleasure. Later my wife (now ex-wife) was oddly unable to climax (I got a bit of self doubt over it) but I realized after we broke up that it truly was only her and nothing I was doing wrong. (Can some women not achieve orgasm?)
All subsequent girlfriends have been very satisfied (got better with practice once I "got it" that pleasing the woman just makes it better tenfold.)
Female ejaculation is rare but real. Shocked the hell out of me when it happened. I thought I broke her. I was like "Uh....that's new".Yes she did effectively pass out too. Just shivering and wanting to cuddle and get warm. I got mine later, don't worry fellas.
And I'll be remarrying again soon. Any woman you can satisfy that well is a keeper (I can only assume she feels the same way)
Funny thing though... despite women saying they want "love, respect and honesty" most tend to go for guys who give them none of those. Just an observation...
Is it really any different for guys? What do most single guys fantasize about, the dopey average girl that will do anything for them or the exotic beauty that doesn't know they exist? If people believe in social hierarchies (not just traditional ones), which apparently we tend to do, we are often attracted to those we see as above ourselves.
In my experience, good looking women that are secure in their looks also like men that pay less attention to them because they are so accustomed to men gawking at them. If a guy seems to not care, then he must have an interesting life. Another thought might be that he will actually treat her with genuine respect since he clearly isn't hung up on some imaginary idea of her. Hell, there are a lot of reasons for it and varying degrees of everything. Every situation is different.
Later my wife (now ex-wife) was oddly unable to climax (I got a bit of self doubt over it) but I realized after we broke up that it truly was only her and nothing I was doing wrong. (Can some women not achieve orgasm?)
I have a good friend who, in our early twenties, told me she couldn't and never had. Couldn't even get herself to. She even gave me a couple shots at it and it was a no go for the most part. Almost, but not quite. It was like some mental hump she couldn't get over. She'd get to the point and her mind would totally wander and **** it up.
Later, when she started dating the guy she's been with for the last god knows how many years, she finally had one. I developed this theory that some women can only do it with certain guys that they have a certain type of relationship with. Some sort of subconscious comfort level thing. I don't know; it's just a theory, but it makes sense. Anyway, last I checked she's still getting them, though never very often, and life for her is fine.
I have a good friend who, in our early twenties, told me she couldn't and never had. Couldn't even get herself to. She even gave me a couple shots at it an
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onscious comfort level thing. I don't know; it's just a theory, but it makes sense. .
Aha. Exact-erly.
There is no such thing as 'good in bed'. Sex is not skiing. Obviously there are certain approaches and (horrible term) techniques that are always going to be more mutually satisfying, but as the sage said, sex is not cooking. Soup doesn't cook you back.
I dunno---with "women" it's more complicated---I think sex is much more idealized for them.
Something.
Anyway. I suggest everyone pick up some of the writings and translations done by Sir Richard Francis Burton. (NO! not the actor) he's the first guy to translate the Kama Sutra for the west---and he has some thoughts on "women" as well.
Women want jerks. Someone who can treat them like shit. Verbal, mental, or physical abuse is a must. But you have to be a good looking jerk. If you arent good looking, have a fat bank account. If you're not rich, forget it no matter now nice or attractive you are. They will constantly tell you of their displeasure with these jerks, despite the fact that they are fully aware that they are a-holes. They will continue this cycle until they are in their mid 30s about, until they FINALLY realize to stop putting up with the crap and search for the nice guy that they could have had all along. Or not.
Women want jerks. Someone who can treat them like shit. Verbal, mental, or physical abuse is a must. But you have to be a good looking jerk. If you arent good looking, have a fat bank account. If you're not rich, forget it no matter now nice or attractive you are. They will constantly tell you of their displeasure with these jerks, despite the fact that they are fully aware that they are a-holes. They will continue this cycle until they are in their mid 30s about, until they FINALLY realize to stop putting up with the crap and search for the nice guy that they could have had all along. Or not.
Just get out the magazine and do your business in private.
How many men have answered this thread I wonder? Its reminds me of the people who make the laws that affect the most fundamental functions of a womans's body, namely pregnancy (and its termination). Those people are almost all men.
What does a woman want? What a question.
How high is a mountain? How many rooms does a house have?
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Originally posted by TigerWoods99
Women want jerks. Someone who can treat them like shit. Verbal, mental, or physical abuse is a must. But you have to be a good looking jerk. If you arent good looking, have a fat bank account. If you're not rich, forget it no matter now nice or attractive you are. They will constantly tell you of their displeasure with these jerks, despite the fact that they are fully aware that they are a-holes. They will continue this cycle until they are in their mid 30s about, until they FINALLY realize to stop putting up with the crap and search for the nice guy that they could have had all along. Or not.
I listen to some rap, and some of it I like. Like any variety of music, 90% is disposable pap, wallpaper, worthless, 10% shines. But it sounds like you have been absorbing the (c)rap in rap. Songs are written that have content other than mysogynistic chip on the shoulder "lyrics" about milkshakes, ho's, bitches, and being "busted by the man"....usually by people who won't think for themselves, hang out in clumps, try to sound tough, and look like neo-nazis. (uncool, and a 100% turn-off).
And (this is a by-the-way, while I'm thinking about this)....what is this moronic fashion that so many gangbanger-wannabes are into...ie hooded tops in 100ºF heat and wearing pants round the top of the thighs...its a sure recipe for (a) heatstoke and (b) falling over when the cops give chase.
And (this is a by-the-way, while I'm thinking about this)....what is this moronic fashion that so many gangbanger-wannabes are into...ie hooded tops in 100ºF heat and wearing pants round the top of the thighs...its a sure recipe for (a) heatstoke and (b) falling over when the cops give chase.
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Originally posted by Carol A
AND...if you give a woman great sex, she will be all over you. She won't be able to keep her hands off you. Shoes will be absolutely the LAST thing on her mind.
Exactly.
Originally posted by pfflam
You, my friend, need to start being a little considerate. You might also try practicing in order to get that old endurance stuff happening.
I would never have sex without satisfying my partner . . . it wouldn't be satisfying
my partner is satisfied everytime. i just don't think all women ejaculate. it pretty rare from my understanding
Originally posted by Carol A
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(Think *T*O*N*G*U*E* first.)
Great enjoyment, too, for the guy to give it.
And, as for the general question in this thread, may I add "babies". We have moved beyond the days when women were viewed as child factories, but that does not mean that many, wonderful, talented, and sexy women do not also want babies. It's a natural urge.
I cringe if I see cunnilingus in any typical porno movie. It's always the same dog-lapping-at-the-water-bowl monotony that couldn't possibly satisfy a woman. And the shaking the head left and right thing is hilarious. (particularly if the guy has a cowlick).
Women want heat, wet, and variable speed and a good deal of listening to her and judging her movements to maximize the timing of the orgasms. Slow is very good, not merely speed. Stiff tongue but also soft.
Yes, pleasing her first is my golden rule and I get all I need during and after. Give them true orgasms and you can't get rid of them if you wanted to.
First few girlfriends i had it was rather basic sex, mostly for my pleasure. Later my wife (now ex-wife) was oddly unable to climax (I got a bit of self doubt over it) but I realized after we broke up that it truly was only her and nothing I was doing wrong. (Can some women not achieve orgasm?)
All subsequent girlfriends have been very satisfied (got better with practice once I "got it" that pleasing the woman just makes it better tenfold.)
Female ejaculation is rare but real. Shocked the hell out of me when it happened. I thought I broke her.
And I'll be remarrying again soon.
I want my cake and eat it, too.
"A woman without a past has no future"
Oscar Wilde
Make what you want off this, I feel it to be a plus for a woman to have had prior experience.
I like to eat cake but I love being eaten, and well.
Originally posted by FaydRautha
Funny thing though... despite women saying they want "love, respect and honesty" most tend to go for guys who give them none of those. Just an observation...
Is it really any different for guys? What do most single guys fantasize about, the dopey average girl that will do anything for them or the exotic beauty that doesn't know they exist? If people believe in social hierarchies (not just traditional ones), which apparently we tend to do, we are often attracted to those we see as above ourselves.
In my experience, good looking women that are secure in their looks also like men that pay less attention to them because they are so accustomed to men gawking at them. If a guy seems to not care, then he must have an interesting life. Another thought might be that he will actually treat her with genuine respect since he clearly isn't hung up on some imaginary idea of her. Hell, there are a lot of reasons for it and varying degrees of everything. Every situation is different.
Originally posted by johnq
Later my wife (now ex-wife) was oddly unable to climax (I got a bit of self doubt over it) but I realized after we broke up that it truly was only her and nothing I was doing wrong. (Can some women not achieve orgasm?)
I have a good friend who, in our early twenties, told me she couldn't and never had. Couldn't even get herself to. She even gave me a couple shots at it and it was a no go for the most part. Almost, but not quite. It was like some mental hump she couldn't get over. She'd get to the point and her mind would totally wander and **** it up.
Later, when she started dating the guy she's been with for the last god knows how many years, she finally had one. I developed this theory that some women can only do it with certain guys that they have a certain type of relationship with. Some sort of subconscious comfort level thing. I don't know; it's just a theory, but it makes sense. Anyway, last I checked she's still getting them, though never very often, and life for her is fine.
Originally posted by giant
I have a good friend who, in our early twenties, told me she couldn't and never had. Couldn't even get herself to. She even gave me a couple shots at it an
[snip]
onscious comfort level thing. I don't know; it's just a theory, but it makes sense. .
Aha. Exact-erly.
There is no such thing as 'good in bed'. Sex is not skiing. Obviously there are certain approaches and (horrible term) techniques that are always going to be more mutually satisfying, but as the sage said, sex is not cooking. Soup doesn't cook you back.
The soup has a say.
Originally posted by giant
I developed this theory that some women can only do it with certain guys that they have a certain type of relationship with.
I think for "women" it isn't so much the act itself, but idea of intercourse that either does/does not push them over the edge.
Originally posted by dmz
I think for "women" it isn't so much the act itself, but idea of intercourse that either does/does not push them over the edge.
Isn't it all about ideas anyway, no matter which gender?
Something.
Anyway. I suggest everyone pick up some of the writings and translations done by Sir Richard Francis Burton. (NO! not the actor) he's the first guy to translate the Kama Sutra for the west---and he has some thoughts on "women" as well.
Pretty hairy stuff.
Originally posted by TigerWoods99
Women want jerks. Someone who can treat them like shit. Verbal, mental, or physical abuse is a must. But you have to be a good looking jerk. If you arent good looking, have a fat bank account. If you're not rich, forget it no matter now nice or attractive you are. They will constantly tell you of their displeasure with these jerks, despite the fact that they are fully aware that they are a-holes. They will continue this cycle until they are in their mid 30s about, until they FINALLY realize to stop putting up with the crap and search for the nice guy that they could have had all along. Or not.
Just get out the magazine and do your business in private.
What does a woman want? What a question.
How high is a mountain? How many rooms does a house have?
Originally posted by TigerWoods99
Women want jerks. Someone who can treat them like shit. Verbal, mental, or physical abuse is a must. But you have to be a good looking jerk. If you arent good looking, have a fat bank account. If you're not rich, forget it no matter now nice or attractive you are. They will constantly tell you of their displeasure with these jerks, despite the fact that they are fully aware that they are a-holes. They will continue this cycle until they are in their mid 30s about, until they FINALLY realize to stop putting up with the crap and search for the nice guy that they could have had all along. Or not.
I listen to some rap, and some of it I like. Like any variety of music, 90% is disposable pap, wallpaper, worthless, 10% shines. But it sounds like you have been absorbing the (c)rap in rap. Songs are written that have content other than mysogynistic chip on the shoulder "lyrics" about milkshakes, ho's, bitches, and being "busted by the man"....usually by people who won't think for themselves, hang out in clumps, try to sound tough, and look like neo-nazis. (uncool, and a 100% turn-off).
And (this is a by-the-way, while I'm thinking about this)....what is this moronic fashion that so many gangbanger-wannabes are into...ie hooded tops in 100ºF heat and wearing pants round the top of the thighs...its a sure recipe for (a) heatstoke and (b) falling over when the cops give chase.
Originally posted by sammi jo
And (this is a by-the-way, while I'm thinking about this)....what is this moronic fashion that so many gangbanger-wannabes are into...ie hooded tops in 100ºF heat and wearing pants round the top of the thighs...its a sure recipe for (a) heatstoke and (b) falling over when the cops give chase.