I believe that it was a metal connection on the outside ring of the headphone jack... and this was used for the remote... but i believe the 2nd generation Dual USB iBooks had the port that you are referring to, it was used as a headphone port and a video out port. It is also present on many camcorders.
what i was getting at before was that there will probably be a VERY limited video format if that ever becomes an option. maybe MPEG-1, maybe MPEG-4 who knows... (probably not MPEG-2 due to licensing issues...)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Right. I just noticed that my initial (indeed, initial) post was vague. I meant to suggest that it would be mpeg4 video out, since that's what Apple's pimping at the moment. And it really is a remarkable codec.
why o why would you want AM/FM?! The reason for the iPod is so you don't have to listen to comercialism at its best. XM is different but I imagine that would cost alot.
Imagine sitting on the bss watching last nights game you missed or that episode of tele tubbies your pals are on about. Perfect.
and as for am fm, I say only fm. There are lots of great university stations that play great music and have few to no ads. So yes drop Grandmas AM and Grab FM. now.
Not to sure if everyone has missed this but if Apple could remake/refine/redo, this <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20020809/index.html"; target="_blank">Review Archos Media Player</a> . I think that they would have a very fine product.
The bind I'm in now is I need a digital wallet for Photos, and a portable HD, I'd also love an iPod, this Archos product with a larger HD, and Firewire would fit my needs perfectly and allow me to only carry one device.
Want to show your iMovie to Grandma who doesn't have a computer, problem solved, want to watch a movie or listen to music on the plane problem solved....
this is a great idea... but i don't think the cpu in the iPod can handle video, let alone all different types of formats of video.... the best we could hope for is vanilla QT .mov files.. not even mpgs...</strong><hr></blockquote>
A cheap little camera can do video to a 2" LCD, why not the iPod
A cheap little camera can do video to a 2" LCD, why not the iPod</strong><hr></blockquote>
a cheap little camera does uncompressed video off of a TAPE to a 2" LCD... the video is very large and does not require encoding...where the CPU becomes necessary.
Im just thinkin of being able to hook my iPod to my camera to store pictures on it while I'm im the middle of nowhere and cant carry a PB. Be nice to look at them to see if you need more or have everything covered.
a cheap little camera does uncompressed video off of a TAPE to a 2" LCD... the video is very large and does not require encoding...where the CPU becomes necessary.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A couple of things:
1) Lots of digital cameras can record QT movies these days. No tape involved. [edit: You're also talking about video that's been captured. The iPod wouldn't need to capture anything (certainly a processor-intensive matter). It'd just need to play back]
2) I think the red herring here is the LCD on the iPod. It wouldn't need an LCD. All it needs to do is give a list of filenames.
To my way of thinking, part of the point of the iPod is that it serves as the "media" extention of your comp. No computer needed. Hook it up to a stereo or a TV and view/hear the files you have.
The other point of the iPod, of course, is that Apple has tricked people into carrying around little hard drives with them. They've made it convenient. Even desirable. And once people are carrying little hard drives around with them, they can being to take advantage of that fact (home dir on an iPod, etc).
<strong>1) Lots of digital cameras can record QT movies these days. No tape involved. [edit: You're also talking about video that's been captured. The iPod wouldn't need to capture anything (certainly a processor-intensive matter). It'd just need to play back]</strong><hr></blockquote>
most of the cameras you are referring to also have a specialized chip to do that specific function.. the iPod has no such chip... would need a new version of hardware that isn't going to happen anytime soon...
<strong>why o why would you want AM/FM?! The reason for the iPod is so you don't have to listen to comercialism at its best. XM is different but I imagine that would cost alot.
AM/FM please apple no!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Some of us live i countries where non-comercial radio is available. Where I live we have 3 public radiostations without comercials. All geared towards different audiences - 1 for general public, 1 for culture and 1 for teen-agers. All of them without any comercials. On top of that we have specialized radiostations also without comercials - 1 that plays classical music 24 hours a day, one with news etc...
On top of that we have the normal comercial stations. I would love to have FM (I don't need AM) on my iPods (I have 2). There are lots of interesting radio programs that I would like to listen to - there are plays, political discussions, reviews of new recordings etc...
Remember - USA is not the whole world, it is just a tiny little part of it.
People living in countries where non-commercial radiostations broadcast, scandinavian countries, for instance, have a fantastic service floating in the air. Commercial radiostation is another thing, but they are popular as well, I believe.
Those small radios are doing well in the market.
I always bring my matchbox-sized aiwa. I bring my cell phone as well. And, if I had one, I would bring my iPod.
With more than three gadgets in my pocket, I need to look at how they could be combined.
If I merged the radio and the phone into one gadget, I would be forced to wear a handsfree-set, looking like an idiot if someone called me in a public place. And having to change headphones if I wanted to listen to mp3s.
On the other hand, if the iPod was married with the radio, the situation would be the same as today, but in addition I would be bringing 20G of storage and quite a lot of music. And apple would have sold yet another iPod.
The best would, of course, be a merging of the three.
Well tryd, seems like we both finally had to praise the glory of radio. And almost simultanously, as well.
Well well. Look at those two scandinavians. They both want fm/am radio and do you know what the third scandinavian here wants it too.
Well I love my iPod and think it is great, but sometimes i get tired of hearing only music and wants to listen to radio. News, politics and so on. Sometimes it is good to have something else than only music. And a radio is one of the things i really think fits in the iPod.
So now I only wonder when Zapchud is coming to agree with us cause he is also a scandinavian, as far as I know.
well in the news.com story today about the ceo of portalplayer resigning it mentions a bunch of new liscencees announcing producs in january...so the iPod will have a slew of new competition then...ofcourse I am sure Apple is well aware of this and will have some new additions to keep them on top as well as more competitive pricing...
Two reasons for a radio tuner (and come on, it'd be one tiny IC):
1) NPR. I want news.
2) The gym. Most gyms broadcast their televisions (ESPN, CNN) on radio frequencies inside the building. It's ridiculous that I have to take two devices to listen to CNN or my music when the FM radio is so brain dead, low power, and tiny.
What I've been expecting to see, and disappointed, is a small add-on that plugs into the FW jack for power, and is just a matchbox sized strip along the top of the iPod with headphone pass through, a small LCD for station display, and two itty bitty buttons for tuning/volume. Simple, cheap. The most costly part would probably be the FW male jack. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Barring that, Apple adding it to the iPod seems like a no brainer. The battery, headphone jack, and UI are already there. It just needs a tiny FM receiver chip.
<strong>Two reasons for a radio tuner (and come on, it'd be one tiny IC):
1) NPR. I want news.
2) The gym. Most gyms broadcast their televisions (ESPN, CNN) on radio frequencies inside the building. It's ridiculous that I have to take two devices to listen to CNN or my music when the FM radio is so brain dead, low power, and tiny.
What I've been expecting to see, and disappointed, is a small add-on that plugs into the FW jack for power, and is just a matchbox sized strip along the top of the iPod with headphone pass through, a small LCD for station display, and two itty bitty buttons for tuning/volume. Simple, cheap. The most costly part would probably be the FW male jack. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Barring that, Apple adding it to the iPod seems like a no brainer. The battery, headphone jack, and UI are already there. It just needs a tiny FM receiver chip.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree with NPR and some news stations on the iPod, it would be a nice addition.
Comments
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I believe that it was a metal connection on the outside ring of the headphone jack... and this was used for the remote... but i believe the 2nd generation Dual USB iBooks had the port that you are referring to, it was used as a headphone port and a video out port. It is also present on many camcorders.
what i was getting at before was that there will probably be a VERY limited video format if that ever becomes an option. maybe MPEG-1, maybe MPEG-4 who knows... (probably not MPEG-2 due to licensing issues...)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Right. I just noticed that my initial (indeed, initial) post was vague. I meant to suggest that it would be mpeg4 video out, since that's what Apple's pimping at the moment. And it really is a remarkable codec.
Cheers
Scott
AM/FM please apple no!
Imagine sitting on the bss watching last nights game you missed or that episode of tele tubbies your pals are on about. Perfect.
and as for am fm, I say only fm. There are lots of great university stations that play great music and have few to no ads. So yes drop Grandmas AM and Grab FM. now.
thank you
the end.
flick
The bind I'm in now is I need a digital wallet for Photos, and a portable HD, I'd also love an iPod, this Archos product with a larger HD, and Firewire would fit my needs perfectly and allow me to only carry one device.
Want to show your iMovie to Grandma who doesn't have a computer, problem solved, want to watch a movie or listen to music on the plane problem solved....
More info at <a href="http://www.archos.com/"; target="_blank">Archo's Homepage.</a>
What do you think? Does Apple have one of these in their pipeline?
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this is a great idea... but i don't think the cpu in the iPod can handle video, let alone all different types of formats of video.... the best we could hope for is vanilla QT .mov files.. not even mpgs...</strong><hr></blockquote>
A cheap little camera can do video to a 2" LCD, why not the iPod
<strong>
A cheap little camera can do video to a 2" LCD, why not the iPod</strong><hr></blockquote>
a cheap little camera does uncompressed video off of a TAPE to a 2" LCD... the video is very large and does not require encoding...where the CPU becomes necessary.
<strong>
a cheap little camera does uncompressed video off of a TAPE to a 2" LCD... the video is very large and does not require encoding...where the CPU becomes necessary.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A couple of things:
1) Lots of digital cameras can record QT movies these days. No tape involved. [edit: You're also talking about video that's been captured. The iPod wouldn't need to capture anything (certainly a processor-intensive matter). It'd just need to play back]
2) I think the red herring here is the LCD on the iPod. It wouldn't need an LCD. All it needs to do is give a list of filenames.
To my way of thinking, part of the point of the iPod is that it serves as the "media" extention of your comp. No computer needed. Hook it up to a stereo or a TV and view/hear the files you have.
The other point of the iPod, of course, is that Apple has tricked people into carrying around little hard drives with them. They've made it convenient. Even desirable. And once people are carrying little hard drives around with them, they can being to take advantage of that fact (home dir on an iPod, etc).
Cheers
Scott
[ 12-10-2002: Message edited by: midwinter ]</p>
<strong>1) Lots of digital cameras can record QT movies these days. No tape involved. [edit: You're also talking about video that's been captured. The iPod wouldn't need to capture anything (certainly a processor-intensive matter). It'd just need to play back]</strong><hr></blockquote>
most of the cameras you are referring to also have a specialized chip to do that specific function.. the iPod has no such chip... would need a new version of hardware that isn't going to happen anytime soon...
<strong>why o why would you want AM/FM?! The reason for the iPod is so you don't have to listen to comercialism at its best. XM is different but I imagine that would cost alot.
AM/FM please apple no!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Some of us live i countries where non-comercial radio is available. Where I live we have 3 public radiostations without comercials. All geared towards different audiences - 1 for general public, 1 for culture and 1 for teen-agers. All of them without any comercials. On top of that we have specialized radiostations also without comercials - 1 that plays classical music 24 hours a day, one with news etc...
On top of that we have the normal comercial stations. I would love to have FM (I don't need AM) on my iPods (I have 2). There are lots of interesting radio programs that I would like to listen to - there are plays, political discussions, reviews of new recordings etc...
Remember - USA is not the whole world, it is just a tiny little part of it.
Terje
People living in countries where non-commercial radiostations broadcast, scandinavian countries, for instance, have a fantastic service floating in the air. Commercial radiostation is another thing, but they are popular as well, I believe.
Those small radios are doing well in the market.
I always bring my matchbox-sized aiwa. I bring my cell phone as well. And, if I had one, I would bring my iPod.
With more than three gadgets in my pocket, I need to look at how they could be combined.
If I merged the radio and the phone into one gadget, I would be forced to wear a handsfree-set, looking like an idiot if someone called me in a public place. And having to change headphones if I wanted to listen to mp3s.
On the other hand, if the iPod was married with the radio, the situation would be the same as today, but in addition I would be bringing 20G of storage and quite a lot of music. And apple would have sold yet another iPod.
The best would, of course, be a merging of the three.
Well tryd, seems like we both finally had to praise the glory of radio. And almost simultanously, as well.
[ 12-10-2002: Message edited by: makrell ]</p>
Well I love my iPod and think it is great, but sometimes i get tired of hearing only music and wants to listen to radio. News, politics and so on. Sometimes it is good to have something else than only music. And a radio is one of the things i really think fits in the iPod.
So now I only wonder when Zapchud is coming to agree with us cause he is also a scandinavian, as far as I know.
4 in a row would be graet ;-)
How important is radio?
It seems in Scandiavia it is very much so. I would imagine in UK as well, the BBC being a monumental cultural institution.
But other places? I don't know.
However most radio here in the US blows chunks so it wouldn't be a compelling feature for me. I can see the usefulness though.
<strong>4 in a row
Make that 5.
<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1040-976740.html?tag=fd_top"; target="_blank">news.com story</a>
1) NPR. I want news.
2) The gym. Most gyms broadcast their televisions (ESPN, CNN) on radio frequencies inside the building. It's ridiculous that I have to take two devices to listen to CNN or my music when the FM radio is so brain dead, low power, and tiny.
What I've been expecting to see, and disappointed, is a small add-on that plugs into the FW jack for power, and is just a matchbox sized strip along the top of the iPod with headphone pass through, a small LCD for station display, and two itty bitty buttons for tuning/volume. Simple, cheap. The most costly part would probably be the FW male jack.
Barring that, Apple adding it to the iPod seems like a no brainer. The battery, headphone jack, and UI are already there. It just needs a tiny FM receiver chip.
I'm not sure is something new will be out so soon after the solid state wheel versions.
I'm just so tempted to pick one up so I can enjoy it over the holidays. That or a laptop...don't know which to focus on...I want both!
<strong>Two reasons for a radio tuner (and come on, it'd be one tiny IC):
1) NPR. I want news.
2) The gym. Most gyms broadcast their televisions (ESPN, CNN) on radio frequencies inside the building. It's ridiculous that I have to take two devices to listen to CNN or my music when the FM radio is so brain dead, low power, and tiny.
What I've been expecting to see, and disappointed, is a small add-on that plugs into the FW jack for power, and is just a matchbox sized strip along the top of the iPod with headphone pass through, a small LCD for station display, and two itty bitty buttons for tuning/volume. Simple, cheap. The most costly part would probably be the FW male jack.
Barring that, Apple adding it to the iPod seems like a no brainer. The battery, headphone jack, and UI are already there. It just needs a tiny FM receiver chip.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree with NPR and some news stations on the iPod, it would be a nice addition.