Big deal, we all knew this was coming . Ok so apple will be selling movies...and releasing a new Pod video phone again bfg deal what I want is a decent computer between Workstation and Mini. There are a billion monitors outthere that work just fine so all in ones are out. Apple has a gigantic hole in its line up by forcing all in one iMac in between the 4 core Powerhouse MacPro and the sorry we forgot to install a real GPU Mini. Come on Apple stop the games. Build a decent prosumer machine! bring back the Cube!
Assuming that one will be allowed to burn them to disk, something not now allowed on iTunes video downloards, a bit of effort isn't a bad thing. It isn't as though you have to be there monitoring the process.
One thing this whole hype-driven announcement fails to address is DVD-R life. The last I heard, DVD-Rs are only rated for 5 years before they can become unreliable. Don't tell me Apple will also announce 20 year stable DVD-Rs at this event.
Yes, but the complaint will be I already have a monitor! Well, then use both in a dual setup. But I don't have a large enough desk... get a larger one.
The Mini is just a bait and switch for Windows users.
Yes, but the complaint will be I already have a monitor! Well, then use both in a dual setup. But I don't have a large enough desk... get a larger one.
The Mini is just a bait and switch for Windows users.
The mini is what drug dealers call "entry-level crack".
Ok, so if we're (or AI?) is sure that there will be "new iMacs, iPods, iTunes movies," then what's the 'one more thing'? Phone? Merom MPB? MPB would seem a bit random given the focus of the event, but g'd'mit if not sep. 12 then when!?
One thing this whole hype-driven announcement fails to address is DVD-R life. The last I heard, DVD-Rs are only rated for 5 years before they can become unreliable. Don't tell me Apple will also announce 20 year stable DVD-Rs at this event.
They should last for more than 20 years. It's the RW's that are unreliable over that time period.
...In the same vein, most people are happy with the quality of the video downoads from Apple now.
I would be willing to bet that most people are happy with, or at least put up with, the current video quality because that is what is available and they are watching it on iPods or on their computer monitors and not on TV's. Video size is going to need to be at least DVD quality when they release a hardware component that is designed for viewing the video on TV's.
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I agree entirely.
We ought to set up an online-petition to put a bit of presure on Apple.
Many thousands would sign.
You can compress DVD-sized video down to a GB or two of data. 1 gig costs Apple 50 cents or so of bandwidth. For a $10 movie, not a huge issue.
Does Apple license Pixar's pixlet compression algorithm?
Assuming that one will be allowed to burn them to disk, something not now allowed on iTunes video downloards, a bit of effort isn't a bad thing. It isn't as though you have to be there monitoring the process.
One thing this whole hype-driven announcement fails to address is DVD-R life. The last I heard, DVD-Rs are only rated for 5 years before they can become unreliable. Don't tell me Apple will also announce 20 year stable DVD-Rs at this event.
1 to 2GB is about right. Even for HD content.
Nope, sorry. MPEG-4 is a pretty aggressive encoding format, and here are the sizes of movies on HD-DVD using that format:
A view from space 12.9 GB (13,837,060,608 Bytes)
Goodfellas 25.0 GB (26,840,722,944 Bytes)
Unforgiven 29.6 GB (31,762,386,432 Bytes)
Syriana 22.5 GB (24,193,612,800 Bytes)
Blazing Saddles 29.2 GB (31,329,091,584 Bytes)
Swordfish 21.2 GB (22,753,586,688 Bytes)
Million Dollar Baby 21.5 GB (23,100,478,464 Bytes)
Enter the Dragon 29.8 GB (31,959,653,376 Bytes)
The Dukes of Hazzard 18.2 GB (19,544,179,200 Bytes)
Phantom of the Opera 28.6 GB (30,690,100,224 Bytes)
HDnet World Reports vol. 1 11.9 GB (12,757,925,376 Bytes)
Training Day 25.9 GB (27,808,994,304 Bytes)
The Perfect Storm 30.3 GB (32,542,046,208 Bytes)
Full Metal Jacket 32.0 GB (34,404,830,208 Bytes)
Jarhead 28.4 GB (30,506,907,648 Bytes)
The Chronicles of Riddick 30.2 GB (32,439,536,640 Bytes)
Doom 19.0 GB (20,379,459,072 Bytes)
The Bourne Supremacy 26.1 GB (28,046,151,168 Bytes)
Van Helsing 29.3 GB (31,427,235,840 Bytes)
Assault on Precinct 13 23.9 GB (25,702,957,056 Bytes)
U-571 26.7 GB (28,710,657,024 Bytes)
Serenity 22.5 GB (24,198,354,432 Bytes)
Constantine 25.2 GB (27,086,384,640 Bytes)
Happy Gilmore 17.4 GB (18,642,667,008 Bytes)
If you are encoding a HDTV movie down to 2 GB, then you are losing a lot of quality.
I can't wait to download sub-vhs quality movies!
You don't think they'll up the quality if they ship a hardware device that streams to a TV?
You don't think they'll up the quality if they ship a hardware device that streams to a TV?
no, i don't. but we'll see won't we?
what I want is a decent computer between Workstation an Mini
iMac?
iMac?
Yes, but the complaint will be I already have a monitor! Well, then use both in a dual setup. But I don't have a large enough desk... get a larger one.
The Mini is just a bait and switch for Windows users.
Yes, but the complaint will be I already have a monitor! Well, then use both in a dual setup. But I don't have a large enough desk... get a larger one.
The Mini is just a bait and switch for Windows users.
The mini is what drug dealers call "entry-level crack".
One thing this whole hype-driven announcement fails to address is DVD-R life. The last I heard, DVD-Rs are only rated for 5 years before they can become unreliable. Don't tell me Apple will also announce 20 year stable DVD-Rs at this event.
They should last for more than 20 years. It's the RW's that are unreliable over that time period.
Nope, sorry. MPEG-4 is a pretty aggressive encoding format, and here are the sizes of movies on HD-DVD using that format:
A view from space 12.9 GB (13,837,060,608 Bytes)
Goodfellas 25.0 GB (26,840,722,944 Bytes)
Unforgiven 29.6 GB (31,762,386,432 Bytes)
Syriana 22.5 GB (24,193,612,800 Bytes)
Blazing Saddles 29.2 GB (31,329,091,584 Bytes)
Swordfish 21.2 GB (22,753,586,688 Bytes)
Million Dollar Baby 21.5 GB (23,100,478,464 Bytes)
Enter the Dragon 29.8 GB (31,959,653,376 Bytes)
The Dukes of Hazzard 18.2 GB (19,544,179,200 Bytes)
Phantom of the Opera 28.6 GB (30,690,100,224 Bytes)
HDnet World Reports vol. 1 11.9 GB (12,757,925,376 Bytes)
Training Day 25.9 GB (27,808,994,304 Bytes)
The Perfect Storm 30.3 GB (32,542,046,208 Bytes)
Full Metal Jacket 32.0 GB (34,404,830,208 Bytes)
Jarhead 28.4 GB (30,506,907,648 Bytes)
The Chronicles of Riddick 30.2 GB (32,439,536,640 Bytes)
Doom 19.0 GB (20,379,459,072 Bytes)
The Bourne Supremacy 26.1 GB (28,046,151,168 Bytes)
Van Helsing 29.3 GB (31,427,235,840 Bytes)
Assault on Precinct 13 23.9 GB (25,702,957,056 Bytes)
U-571 26.7 GB (28,710,657,024 Bytes)
Serenity 22.5 GB (24,198,354,432 Bytes)
Constantine 25.2 GB (27,086,384,640 Bytes)
Happy Gilmore 17.4 GB (18,642,667,008 Bytes)
If you are encoding a HDTV movie down to 2 GB, then you are losing a lot of quality.
Are you old enough to remember people putting four movies on one 8 hour VHS tape? I am. The quality was terrible. Almost unwatchable.
The quality after compressing these down to 2GB will still be far better than that.
Most people don't care much about quality. As long as they have the movie, they are happy.
In the same vein, most people are happy with the quality of the video downoads from Apple now.
Was the watermarking on the picture really necessary? AppleInsider wasn't the only organisation invited to the event.
Even if they were. It's been made public by Apple by the mere act of sending it out.
It's not AI's copyright, and it may even be illegal to alter it without Apple's permission.
I would get a lot of requests like that in my business. We had to say no.
AppleInsider wasn't the only organisation invited to the event.
I don't think AI was invited.
-Owl
...In the same vein, most people are happy with the quality of the video downoads from Apple now.
I would be willing to bet that most people are happy with, or at least put up with, the current video quality because that is what is available and they are watching it on iPods or on their computer monitors and not on TV's. Video size is going to need to be at least DVD quality when they release a hardware component that is designed for viewing the video on TV's.
It's not like this is an exclusive. Hell, every site I know has a copy of it.
This may be the tackiest thing I have ever seen.
I hope AppleInsider is not going the way of Spymac and MacDailyNews,
Are you old enough to remember people putting four movies on one 8 hour VHS tape? I am. The quality was terrible. Almost unwatchable.
The quality after compressing these down to 2GB will still be far better than that.
Most people don't care much about quality. As long as they have the movie, they are happy.
In the same vein, most people are happy with the quality of the video downoads from Apple now.
But it is still misleading to call it HDTV if you are going to drop the quality down (probably below SDTV levels).