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lkrupp said:

tylersdad said:

This is monumentally bad for privacy. It's making me reconsider my investments in Apple products. My entire family belongs to the Apple ecosystem. We all have some version of the iPhone 12, iPads and Apple Watches. It starts with examining personal pictures ostensibly to prevent child exploitation, but where does it lead? Where does it end? 

If it makes the perverts switch to Android, so be it and good riddance. And I doubt you will leave the platform when you realize you’re still better off with iOS than Android. Google will be doing exactly the same thing shortly as it usually follows Apple in these matters. Who will you go to? Your statement is just a fart in a wind storm. Good luck with it making any difference.

Google's already doing it, as is Microsoft.   See Charles Arthur's comments here:

https://theoverspill.blog/2021/08/06/apple-scanning-child-abuse-imagery-start-up-1609/

I don't get how competition is being restricted.  I'm in the UK and as far as I know I can use whatever credit/debit card I like - it's simply a matter of registering the card and iPhone with the bank/credit company.  The banks and credit companies are still getting their cut.  

The ones being cut out are the advertising companies who think they have a God given right to know anything and everything about the individual.

 

But is Apple really focussing on users?

There's an interesting piece on Fraser Spiers Blog on how a vocal advocate of iPads is moving to a ChromeBook as his default mobile computing device.  The combination of power and portability across several use cases was ultimately too much to ignore.  

To gain the same degree of functionality using Apple kit would require a MacBook and an iPad and whilst Apple may think people will buy one of each, many users faced with the Google ecosystem will not.  The point is that Apple is still focussed on selling devices (iPad + MacBook) whereas the user faced with an all embracing solution is going to go with the cheaper option.  

That may not be true for schools although ChromeBooks apparently are killing the iPad in US schools and it's only a matter of time before the same thing happens in the UK where price is everything.  Whether Apple will bring out something similar to the old e-Mate, with an A12 processor running IOS remains to be seen, but if they don't they really should.  It would give the ChromeBook a run for its money.  

larz2112 said:

I really hope they offer quad-core again using the latest CPUs, 32 GB max memory, and make it user-friendly regarding memory and hard drive upgrades.

Probably not but it will be thinner.....

The only person I know that plays Fornite does it on a game console, so I doubt they could give a toss whether it's on iOS or not.

Agree with others on this thread; using your customers as pawns in your business battles is not good and can easily backfire.

Is Ive's new studio LoveFrom or shoudl it be "LoveFORM"  Surely the latter sounds more appropriate.

LoveForm - function can take a hike....

seniorchief said:

They may have, I know that they have a separate Government version. Zoomgov

So presumably they can do a more secure version it's just that they prefer to slurp consumer data as a sideline...

As Gruber points out, they don't need to do this.  They have a good product with a market winning combination of quality and ease of use.  They could simply charge more and reduce the 'free' tier.

Although the version numbers are different if you download the installer from https://www.zoomgov.com/download it looks the same as the 'standard' one from https://zoom.us/download#client_4meeting  If there are any differences must be in the code somewhere.

lkrupp said:

So should we all switch to Android then because it’s impervious to these attacks? I mean, we never hear about journalists and politicians who use Android getting surveilled or compromised by zero-day drive by hacks. What’s goin on here?

It's not stopped the Guardian having a go at Apple with nary a mention of Android, whilst quoting a variety of security researchers, Patrick Wardle being to the fore.  

The sub-head indicates the line it takes: "The iPhone maker says it is keeping pace with malware, but the Pegasus project paints a worrying picture".

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/19/how-does-apple-technology-hold-up-against-nso-spyware