bobolicious

...is there finally a purpose for all those white Apple logo stickers...?

...non-upgradable = unappealing from this camp...

...I am reminded of the phrase 'we are not evil'... Has it come to the point where customers are now reliant on external pressure to force Apple to make computers 'for the rest of us'...?

...so why if an Apple watch is 3' from my mac and can unlock it, does it need to sync via Apple servers thousands of miles away in aother country...?

I confirmed this with Apple tech yesterday ...

"a torrent of health data being gathered by the Watch"

"none of them launched complete, all of them lacked certain promised features"

Should this raise the question of merit vs calendar based 'upgrades'...?

Before 2011 (again) macOS upgrades seemed more merit based, and sometimes spanned more than two years,
also adding to and legacy support continuity...

...this from the CEO at the helm of moving so much 'onboard' including T2 storage controllers...?  Really...?
I understood shareholder activism pushed Apple to this shift...?  How much of this is simply the latest 'spin'...?

I've upgraded (and downgraded for repurposing) every mac I've ever owned...

...perhaps the web too may again be 'for the rest of us': www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2020/01/06/what-is-web-3-0/

www.cnbc.com/2021/11/14/apple-sticking-taxpayers-with-part-of-the-bill-for-digital-id-rollout.html
www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/if-you-build-it-they-will-come-apple-has-opened-backdoor-increased-surveillance

...having finally succumbed to a mac pro tower that I can change a drive in minutes, I have to ask how much of Apple's hardware repairability (seemingly diminished since 2011) is anything other than a proprietary monetary policy...? I have also changed an iPhone 4s battery in minutes, entirely successfully.  One can always choose an Apple authorized dealer if one wants, and for many is that the best choice for reliability, safety, time, cost and efficacy? I usually have taken my cars to the OEM dealer for service for the same reason...

lkrupp said:

Beats said:

Cheapskates rejoice!

Realize that there’s still a forum for OS 9 users too. Some people...

Some abandoned applications offer function or legacy project access that is not only useful but arguably required by legal statute...
Additionally some older hardware can continue to function well using legacy software / drivers vs ending up in recycling or landfill.
This may include printers and plotters with orphaned drivers running off legacy print servers, for example.
If I was an author I might still be OK with MacWrite on an SE30 with a large monitor and System 7.1
Apple at one time required all apps to use similar commands and shortcuts for ease of use.  Ironic for a proprietary hardware company?
Enter Adobe and the adopt, extend, extinguish digital colonialism of microsoft?
I remember looking at Quark long ago and asking how could it possibly be meaningfully improved - it seemed perfect.
Personally I find a remarkable purity in much legacy software, like visiting old friends, all sentimentality aside,
and I have yet to find an easier (of use) web app than iWeb for example, with a perpetual license,
as a sequel to PageMill, both of which did/do the 20% of things I need 80% of the time so well... Sigh...