CMA102DL

did they find the dormant cyber pathogen?

Good stuff. We have a Constitution because experience and history shows that our government has a tendency to keep too many secrets and overreach its power and authority. Ideally, our government should adhere to the Constitution and thus defend our civil liberties by default. But sometimes, interests such as national security can derail the government's focus on the Constitution. This is when folks like Tim Cook can make a great difference by making a stand. And think about, if the government were adhering to the Constitution, then there would be no need for people like Ed Snowden to blow a whistle.

Only an idiot would risk getting caugh and fail by using a work phone to plan or conduct a terrorist act. Why is it surprising to the FBI that the phone had NOTHING worthwhile? Farook destroyed his personal phone and backups prior to conducting the terrorist act. This was the phone that had everything. Dumb FBI.
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gunner1954 said:

If Cellebrite has done business with the FBI for the past seven years, and since the FBI obviously trusts them to assist with forensics work, why didn't the FBI request assistance from Cellebrite in this instance? Hmmmmmm?

FBI wanted a permanent backdoor to the iPhone and a precedence to go after other phones and encryption software manufacturers, so they used a high profile terrorist case (San Bernardino shooting) as a pretext. When they saw their efforts were taking them nowhere as Apple wasn't going to yield to pressure , they tried to back by making up a story that someone all of the sudden had come forward with a way to help them unlock the phone. It is all BS. Snowden has been telling us the FBI could unlock this phone on day 1.

No dormant cyber pathogen? DA? FBI? Is it possible that they lied to us?

ps4dailylove said:

I dealt with a lot of software engineers (code monkeys) in my previous job and many of them were socially and personally troubled.

Strange. I deal with software engineers all day long and these people are some of the sharpest, social and kind people. The problem must be you.

why- said:

I don't know why but I just had the most curious image come to my head. I imagined I was sitting in an old armchair in a burnt-out shack in some dystopian wasteland watching the news on a rabbit-ear telly and this story came on. "BREAKING NEWS: The iPhone has been cracked by the government"

it is well past midnight, so that might have had something to do with it

It is almost midnight here and I am getting sleepy waiting for news of the dormant cyber pathogen. Maybe 2morrow?

icoco3 said:

CMA102DL said:

that's not how the FBI thinks. If they can pay 1 million USD for something that costs $1, they will pay the 1 million and ask Congress for more money to beef up their annual budgets and justify their own existence.

They paid the money, the exploit worked, then they found out a simple search on Google would have given them the same information for free.  No refunds as they paid in Bitcoins !!!! 

Everyone knew that there was no relevant info in this phone. Only an idiot would use a work phone to plan a terrorist attack after destroying his personal phone to cover his tracks.

Good point. The fact that Comey has been asking for weak encryption is because he is sick in the head.

bdkennedy said:

CMA102DL said:

worked to death?

No one is worked to death. He could have simply quit.

Tell that to the average salaryman in Tokyo. Some of us as professionals work 50-60 hrs a week, 80 hrs a week to meet deadlines and do not have the luxury to quit. It would not surprise me that engineers at Apple literally are at work most waking hours, but they are likely paid very well, but also feel a lot of pressure and need to be perfect in everything they do.