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Why did Apple buy up another $20B in stock at record highs?
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Editorial: Will Apple's $6k+ Mac Pro require brainwash marketing to sell?
madan said:I'm not trying to make it hard on anyone. But I am trying to clear things up so people know what they're getting into. Buyers remorse sucks. It would be a shame to spend 8k on a computer and find out that it competes unfavorably with a 5k iMac Pro.Yikes. What a disaster.It’s almost like the two machines have different target markets or something.
You’re not clearing anything up. Declaring that buyers of the base Mac Pro are “paying between 4-10x as much for the privilege of the Apple emblem” is nothing short of BS. Price an equivalent Xeon workstation from Dell, Lenovo or HP and let’s compare. Let’s see how much the Apple logo really adds. (But I won’t hold my breath.)There’s a reason there’s a base Mac Pro. Some users need a ton of memory but not a lot of cores. Some need cores but not a lot of memory. Some need both but couldn’t care less about the GPU. Some want as much GPU as they can get. Many won’t bother upgrading the base SSD, others will max it out. Surely this can’t be news to you.Most Mac Pro buyers will order the config they want from Apple, whether that’s ten, fifteen or thirty thousand bucks. If someone wants to buy a $6k base model and throw their own RAM and half a dozen NVMe SSD drives in, more power to them.
Running through a PC Parts Picker list and saying the Mac Pro—or any Mac for that matter—is overpriced is beyond ridiculous. It also displays a profound lack of understanding of the reality of the pricing. Apple has a certain cost structure. They’ve got 130,000+ employees and spend a billion and a half per month on R&D.
Apple’s gross margin on hardware is about 30%, and their net is about 20%. If they sold a base Mac Pro for $3k they’d lose upwards of $2k on every unit sold. Your complaint about the $6k price of the base Mac Pro is no more valid than saying a MacBook Air “should” be $550 or an iPhone 11 $350. It’s naive, and flat out wrong. -
Entire 'iPhone 12' & 'iPhone 12 Pro' lineup specs detailed
exceptionhandler said:apple ][ said:Looks like a killer lineup!
Apple has basically everything covered!
From the very affordable iPhone SE to these 4 new iPhone 12 and 12 Pro models coming later this year!
There is something there for every need and every budget!
And if anybody thinks that the lineup is too complicated, then allow me to suggest that their comprehension and understanding is too limited. This lineup is very simple and easy to understand.
I can imagine a simpler line up:
5.4”, 6.1”, 6.7”... all the same hardware wise except for screen size, battery size, color, and price.What a disaster that would be... a choice between only $1,000 models or an SE? Yikes.
On the contrary, the midrange iPhone 12 lineup is going to be a huge hit, like the XR and 11 before it. 5G, OLED, FaceID and A14/4GB for $649 with a 5.4” display and it’s physically smaller than the SE? Many will choose it over the SE. -
'iPhone 12' announcement in October, 5G models ship in November claims report
mike1 said:I think this is the first I've heard about separate 4G LTE and 5G variants of the same models. Another whole set of SKUs to worry about.3-4 colors3 storage size options eachAre there still different models depending on the carrier???Different models for different regions worldwideNow double all that because of 5G/No 5G variantsThat's an awful lot of SKUs