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  • Look to the new Mac mini with Thunderbolt 3 to predict what the 'modular' Mac Pro will be

    William we should also consider the importance of PCIe, QuickPath etc for a Pro Mac. The Mac Pro 5.1 was limited to PCIe 2.0 although 3.0 came out in late 2010. The Mac Pro 6.1 used PCIe 3.0 and thunderbolt 3 is actually only exposed ×4 PCIe  PCIe 4.0 has been out for some time, but industry will probably switch to PCIe 5.0 and don’t use 4.0. My guess is that Apple did not update the MP 6.1 because the QuickPath and PCIe did not progress enough after 3.0. Since Apple sees the future of computing in integrated systems which you can interconnect it is all about the I/O system. PCIe 5.0 is currently at draft v 0.7 and v 1.0 will be ready at the end of 2019. After PCIe 5.0 will have been adopted Thunderbolt will be able to increase its speeds. By the way PCIe 2.0 is 5 GT/s, 3.0 is 8 GT/s, 4.0 is 16 GT/s and 5.0 will be 32 GT/s or 63 GB/s.
    philboogiedoozydozen
  • Apple says these Macs may not be patched for future vulnerabilities similar to 'ZombieLoad...

    As far as I know Mac Pro (2012) uses the same CPU generation as the Mac Pro (Late 2010). If Mac Pro (Late 2010) isn’t supported Mac Pro (2012) wouldn’t be supported too.
    cornchip
  • Why was iPhone X so successful at $999 despite a mountain of false reporting?


    proline said:
    a) It gives them a way to sell technology that isn't produced in volumes of 200 million per year
    b) It made a ton a money

    I put a) first because contrary to what all the douchebags said, this isn't just about making money. By restricting themselves to components that are produced in huge quantities at affordable prices, Apple was leaving it to Android to offer up the very most cutting edge features- the absolute best cameras and displays, for example. They're tired of it, and now their top phone will be the best in every respect. If you can't afford it, wait a year or two and get the mid-range model.
    Genau! The X is clearly a product where they shift the technology in multiple sectors, just like they did with the MBP 2016, and that gives them the opportunity to develop all the necessary technologies to make it happen. For Apple that is what really counts, to be able to create a technological advantage and the necessary economy of scale.
    sphericchiawatto_cobra
  • Editorial: New Mac Pro highlights the gap Apple isn't filling

    I have to admit that my judgment on the Mac Pro is suspended until I get all facts and specs in autumn, though first impression is great!

    For what it is worth I will never buy either a Mini nor an iMac, for my usage case they are not acceptable. I am currently a proud owner of a Mac Pro 5.1 12 3,46, which is still going strong.

    I might consider a new Mac Pro in a few years time, since I won’t buy first generation nor PCIe 3.0, ten years after it has been introduced. That is also why I never updated to the 2013 MP ... no update ...

    Nevertheless, the price for the base config of the 2019 MP appears too high for what you get and I am already afraid of Apple’s euro adjusted price !!! I suspect 2019 MP base config + Apple care = 7000,- to 8000,- euro
    runswithforkwatto_cobra
  • Mac Pro, Pro Display XDR orders start December 10

    rob53 said:
    macxpress said:
    M68000 said:
    Looking forward to watching real world reviews of this new computer and monitor.  Yes it may seem expensive, but when you think that it's possible to get 10 years out of a computer this powerful and this monitor will certainly not be obsolete any time soon - is it really that expensive over time ?   Instead of buying 2 or 3 high end desktops\laptops in 10 years - just buy this... 
    I think it all depends on what you're doing. I doubt any serious professional (company) is gonna buy one and expect it to last 10yrs. For most companies the standard length they keep a computer around (Mac or PC) is 3yrs before its considered EOL (End of Life). That doesn't mean its useless, its just a standard some companies go by. 
    3 years might be standard for PCs but it never was for Macs, at least not where I worked. I'd say the new Mac Pro could easily last for 5-7 years because of the modularity of the system. The motherboard would need to be replaced to upgrade to faster bus speeds but Thunderbolt 4 and PCIe5 are still in the approval stage and there comes a time when some things are just fast enough for the current software applications. 
    I am not sure, but to my knowledge PCIe 4 has been in adoption for some time and PCIe 5 is to be considered final or almost final. How often has Apple gone with draft standards? WiFi N anyone remembers? No way they will offer motherboard replacement when they finally willl adopt 4 or 5. You will have to buy a new one...

    When I bought my MP 5.1 in 2010 PCIe 3 was standard, but Apple used PCIe 2 .... great!

    To me the PCIe standard is probably the most important piece in this equation
    watto_cobra