dabigkahuna

TextBladeDenied said:

I didn't read anything I would particularly construe as an attack. I saw people criticizing a professional journalist and cautioning her that she appeared to possibly be either intentionally or unintentionally acting as a pawn or shill for a very disreputable lying company, and people were concerned about that.

The summary of it is right there, from your own reference, made by the reporter herself:

A lot of the accusations in this thread have been off base and highly stressful for me. I've been struggling figure out how to explain myself in a way that you guys would find satisfactory, and I'm still not sure how to do it. The idea that I would deceive MacRumors readers or write something untruthful for money (or whatever other benefit I'm supposedly getting out of this) is so entirely preposterous to me that I've been at a loss for words.”

Let's break it down:

@tmay ;

> You're completed ignoring marketing, and ignoring the very consumer that the iPad is targeted. These consumer don't want a desktop operating system, and they don't wan a difficult to use UI. 

Uh, I have two iPads and I would love to be able to use one of them to run Mac apps. What disadvantage would there be to people like me? Right now, if I go on a trip, I have a choice of taking an iPad or a laptop. I generally choose the iPad for ease of carrying and often just working while holding it. But there are always times I would also want to do stuff that is easier on a Mac. If the iPad could switch back and forth, I wouldn't need a laptop at all!

I guess if such an iPad came at a higher price, it may need to be a separate model, just as you can buy cellular or not. But I certainly don't see that it would "need" to bee a separate device with it's own OS.

I and some others aren't asking for combining the two OSes, though maybe someday that will happen. We are just saying we'd like to have one device that can switch between two exiting OSes.

TextBladeDenied said:

dabigkahuna said:

1. Never said it was okay. I simply pointed out that new tech can have lots of unexpected problems and that the variables are far bigger than you seem to realize.

If the above statement is true, then why the propaganda post on the WT forum "Are the delays understandable?"

Sounds exactly like you're arguing that it's okay.

Hey, thanks a lot for posting that link. I had forgotten I made it but it is a great source for specific backup about my statements that many Treg members, even those were had been critical before getting in Treg, realized through their own experience that things were far more complicated than they thought. People who complained about the delays and changed their minds when they learned more. Everyone should read at least that opening post!

Meanwhile, let's point out a few other things:

1. It says the delays are understandable, not "okay".

2. At the time that was posted, it was probably essentially the same thing, because we in Treg knew there were many problems which were common enough and severe enough that it shouldn't be in GR. After all, the post was made less than a year into Treg, when lots of issues were found. Too many to justify GR.

3. The post holds up quite well over the next year or so. Certainly fewer problems. However, none of us had enough info to know if the delays were "okay". You see, if there are lots of problems, it doesn't matter if I don't know if there are 50 or 1000, because 50 is too many. But when the numbers are much lower so the range is 2-50, then I can't tell because the info isn't detailed enough. No one outside of WT can.

4. And then we get into the decision to rewrite the firmware, which is much more recent. We can combine this with WT's announcement that the old firmware was "good enough" for shipping - as in how well it worked - but had the rather important problem that there was no space to efficiently fix the inevitable problem that new users would find upon GR. But while people waiting on it certainly don't want to keep waiting, the argument to free up memory is certainly a reasonable choice.

Not being at WT, we don't have enough info to decide one way or the other. So I can say something is understandable without knowing enough to say it is okay or not.

> Really the best thing we can do here is collectively agree to put Kahuna on ignore, or beg the AI mods to ban him.

LOL! Seeing a real pattern here to shut up any opposition to what you post! Now you have escalated up to a ban! Ignore me all you want. I won't care. But you need to get over this need to control things for everyone based on what you want.

> This thread would be a lot quieter and more focused if Kahuna was forced to move his daily diatribes back to the WT forum where he belongs.

Same pattern! But yeah, I'm sure things are quieter when only one side is heard! Just as there would be no more wars if those attacked simply instantly gave up!

> Kahuna is a diabolical troll and a waste of time.

Yet you keep posting about me.

AnthRD said:

I order back in 2015, canceled after a year waiting and repeated missed promises on shipping dates. At the time I order it wasn’t at all clear this was a beta product still in testing but a product ready to go. So the main criticism has been they weren’t wholly honest about the product being ready to ship in 2015. The other criticism is the way Waytools has censored any criticism on their forums and cancelling orders of customers who have had a rant about the delays or their ability to release a product. I was banned on the forums for “misrepresentation” when I tried to estimate when would finally be released (estimated 2016). They were right I was wrong, I was overly optimistic on when would be released. Look this keyboard is brilliant but when and “if” it is finally released. I don’t think it will be as successful as they may think it should be, why? Simply cause to many people have been burnt by a company that has a woefully poor customer ethos. I believe many people have been turned off by the company to consider buying TextBlade or realised in the years of waiting they don’t actually need one, now.

Review (scanned) a bunch of your latest post on WT. I can see things they probably wouldn't like, but nothing that I'd ban or restrict someone for. But I've said that about a bunch of people. And I've also said we have some people in Treg who had been even more negative. So, yeah, that is odd.

But we still have people criticizing WT on their forum (including me).

I'm sure some people will never buy from the company because of these things, but I also think those will have minimal effect on whether it is a success or not. Inertia will be the biggest challenge to overcome with people being used to full size keyboards.

TextBladeDenied said:

you can only see your perspective.

If Mark Knighton is going to use his position to act unethically, then it is ethical to take measures to counter that.

The customers know what they paid for, so knowing what 'gift' Mark Knighton is going to throw in for their 'patience' is of no consequence. 

Are you going to try to argue that it is unethical to reveal a secret solely on the basis that some individual wants that secret kept? You're not reasonable if you think that.

1. You mean like you only see your perspective?

2. So if someone shoots your dog, it is ethical to shoot their dog?

3. For something that is of "no consequence" you sure seem to think it is important to reveal!

4. It is unethical because we agreed not to tell. It doesn't matter why they want it to be a secret. It only matters that we agreed to keep it a secret.

The enforcement section of the NDA language does not strike me as precluding anyone from revealing the 'gift'.

Actually, it does. The NDA gives some general information about how there will be some things we aren't to talk about publicly - and the specific examples would be given in writing. And they did exactly that right before we actually got the TB, specifying the gift as one of those things.

It sounds like the initial encounter was pretty sketchy, but thankfully it all settled down quickly. I'm trying to decide if I believe the Verxion story or not. Verxion appears to be (and I say this kindly) a big dude. The angry guy must have been even bigger to walk up to a guy in public and call him a 'bastard'. And then at the end, they were pals playing with a Textblade?

It has an air of BS, with a slight tinge of truth.

Once again, even when a Treg member makes a post which critics should like, you still tend to assume they aren't really telling the truth. Amazing bias there.

Too many of the WT cheerleading squad seem to live in a bubble of non-empathy, similar to Mark Knighton. 

Actually, regardless of Verxion's views, most, probably all, are empathetic. We just don't automatically agree with everything people like you think. I've been pointing this out for years, yet even when I document agreement with many things the critics say, I'm still more likely to get responses from critics saying I only defend WT. Just maybe you have the problem with the concept of empathy.

Rolanbek said:

I am fairly sure that the nature of the free gift was marked as confidential, and I think that TREG members have said that they have been asked to withhold the gift details. 

Absolutely true. It was specifically mentioned with other stuff, in writing, as the NDA states would be the case.

No, not that one. But it is the last one I’ll say no to since people could just keep guessing.