rorschachai

JMaille said:

Without that revenue Apple will have to change it's business models.  Which means developer tools and interface access will be financed like on other platforms. 

Before the App Store, the annual fee for the developer program started at $499 and went up to, I believe, $1,499. Mac OS X upgrades also cost $129. People really believe they’re going to be able to have their cake and eat it too. 

Apple's motive for its anticompetitive conduct was simple: Apple did not want its iOS Device-related revenue stream to end when a consumer bought an iOS Device, like it generally does when consumers purchase iMac and MacBook computers," the complaint reads. "So Apple concocted and maintained a plan to continue generating additional revenues over the entire useful life of every iOS Device it sold by cornering the distribution market for iOS applications and charging consumers an extra 30% for every app.

I wonder if these people remember that before the iPhone, Apple charged $129 for Mac OS X upgrades, the Developer Program had multiple tiers that started at $500/year (there was a free option, but  it didn't include access to the OS betas), and there certainly weren't a whole lot of great apps for less than $20-30.

Now, the developer program is only $99, all software upgrades are free, and apps are considerably less expensive, not more.

They want Apple to spend billions developing and maintaining the ecosystem without which they wouldn't even have a business, and not recoup any of it.

“Not ok” based on, what, exactly? Why is 3% any less arbitrary than 30%? I bet people think Tesla products are overpriced.

Apparently simply asking for consent is “disruptive”. Well, I guess it is if your business model relies on practices that are so shady you don’t want to tell users what you’re doing.

Since the EU seems to know so much about how to make the best phones, OSes, apps, services., maybe they should just make an euPhone that runs euOS. Offer euCloud and maybe EU Music and EU TV. I’m sure it’ll all work great.

slurpy said:

It's hilarious that anyone believed for a second that "right to repair" extremists would be satisfied or happy about anything. It's all a farce. These people are by nature anti-Apple trolls to begin with, so they'd never give Apple a shred of credit no matter how far Apple goes. 

It'll be the same story if Apple ever allows side loading on iOS.

hammeroftruth said:

rorschachai said:

JMaille said:

Without that revenue Apple will have to change it's business models.  Which means developer tools and interface access will be financed like on other platforms. 

Before the App Store, the annual fee for the developer program started at $499 and went up to, I believe, $1,499. Mac OS X upgrades also cost $129. People really believe they’re going to be able to have their cake and eat it too. 

Is it that much? I thought it was $99 and $299 for the two different developer programs. 

It used to be, before the App Store. There were multiple tiers. I forgot about the $3,499 tier, but a chunk of that was due to the WWDC ticket included.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070630060844/developer.apple.com/products/

KTR said:

I personally thin apple should close down the Netherlands store, till all this is sorted out.

Let them use web apps. Then they can use any payment system they want and don't have to pay Apple a cent for any of it. Isn't that what they want?

Apple’s next proposal should be to shut down the App Store in the Netherlands. Then these companies can use web apps with whatever payment providers they want and nothing owed to Apple.

Maybe the only thing a web app would lack that a dating app “needs” is notifications. But that is an easy feature to add since Safari already supports them on macOS.

Apple should just make an EU model of iPhone that comes with the absolute bare minimum. No NFC or Secure Element — so, no Face/Touch ID, no Apple Pay etc. Zero apps pre installed except Settings and App Store (after all, preinstalling apps is “anti competitive”). Want to make calls? Text? Take photos? Browse the web? You now have total freedom — go download all the apps you want, on your own. Got a problem? Talk to the third party developer.