ericthehalfbee

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

The phones are what we expected.

The Pixel Slate is DOA. At those prices and without any software to run, why would anyone waste money on one? An iPad Pro is a far superior device.

No software? Ummm, yeah, you might expand on that. But i'd agree with you that a basic $400 iPad probably does everything of importance that a $600 Slate does. 

Soli said:

d_2 said:

(for once) Intel should be commended for stepping up their game, as that’s quite a jump in performance from last year to this year

also, it would be interesting to compare the power requirements of each company’s modem 

I wish we could get a good read on that for the different bands and different distances from a tower. I'm not even sure that's feasible but I'd love for it to happen.

avon b7 said:

ericthehalfbee said:

avon b7 said:

ericthehalfbee said:

tmay said:

ericthehalfbee said:

avon b7 said:

tmay said:

maciekskontakt said:

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anantksundaram said:

avon b7 said:

Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?

The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.

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Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?

Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?

So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.

Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.

I'll post this link;

https://www.ped30.com/2018/09/20/counterpoint-regions-apple-iphone/

Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.

Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?

Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.

Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.

Flakey data?

Niche features?

The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.

Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.

I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.

There is no need to go on the defensive.

From the same company that lies about benchmarks?

So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?


Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.

I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.

Huawei had four devices banned for cheating, so whatever data was there, is now gone.

I know 3DMark removed four Huawei devices, but I haven't heard of anyone else removing them (such as Geekbench).

I don't ever visit benchmarking sites so I can't comment on that but 3DMark will reinstate the results in the coming weeks it seems. Huawei will allow users to activate performance mode. Once that is in place, the results should be re-listed.

So Huawei is going to label a specific mode and call it "Performance Mode"? Why not call it what it is: "Battery Hogging Overclocking Excess Heat Generating Can Only Run For A Couple Minutes Mode".

Which is precisely why I give preference to real world usage over benchmarks. I do think benchmarks play a role though.

As for the name, I suppose it is at least apt in this context.

lkrupp said:

racerhomie3 said:

nunzy said:

That's one reason to love Apple. More of the money we pay goes to Wall Street than any other brand!

Apple doesn't care about market share. Their strategy is to maximize dividends by having the highest profit margins. They could lower prices substantially, but why would they?

I expect them to raise prices until it impacts their ability to increase profits, and then to level off.

By then, all the best richest people will be buying nothing but Apple phones and watches and speakers and cars and jewelry and home automation.

Apple is for people llike us! Watch out Tiffany. Ferrari too!

Stop acting like an idiot. You do realize Apple has $450 phones & $330 iPads, right?

If you haven’t figured it out yet, this @nunzy persona is actually a virile Apple hater pretending to be an insufferable fanboy. It plays the stereotypical fanboy role to the most irritable extreme. He’s actually mocking Apple users and the sooner you block this what-ever-it-is the better.