mjtomlin

 Apple should stop selling all current iPhones and produce two new models for the EU market...

1. An Android based phone that complies 100% with these EU laws.
2. A new Phone that is completely closed - no App Store and no 3rd party development at all, only apple software and services. Anything else, use the web.

Stop updating iOS and only provide security updates. Maybe offer an "upgrade" to Android for those that want it.

Anyone that wants a real iPhone can just buy it from a non-EU country.

darkvader said:

lam92103 said:

Excellent. Cant wait

Same.  If Apple doesn't make these changes worldwide (which I think they will, similar legislation is coming in the US soon), I'll be ordering my next iPhone from the EU.

It's MY iPhone, not Apple's iPhone, and I should be allowed to install any software of MY choosing on it, from any source of MY choosing.  Apple has no right to stop me, and if legislation is what it takes to force them, then so be it.  Apple should have abandoned the idiotic walled garden nonsense before it ever got started.

That's a fairly ignorant statement. It is actually Apple's product they designed, developed and produced for people to purchase. YOU did not pay them to make it for YOU. YOU made the decision to purchase that product as it was produced. That singular physical device you purchased is in fact yours to do with as you please within the limits of what Apple decided it could and should do. You do not own the operating system, nor did you purchase the right to modify the code to suit your needs.  If it doesn't do something you want, then return it and get a device that does. 

Only an idiot would buy something that wasn't what they wanted and then complain and try to force a company to make what they want instead of returning it and looking for another product that does. But... this is the state of the world today; full of entitled people who feel that they should be able to force others to produce exactly what they need and want.

My guess.... An Pay POS peripheral for PC/Macs.

dantheman827 said:

He isn't entirely wrong that Apple directly reduced their revenue by giving users back the control to prevent tracking...

But an entire business built on tracking your users really doesn't seem like the best business plan...

But... it doesn't prevent tracking, it makes the user choose if they want to be tracked or not. Facebook, and any other developer can still track. It's just that at that point, they become liable for non consent.

"Even though there's a much larger platform with all the capabilities we're looking for, we don't like Apple [making so much money], so let's just make a bunch of laws that make their vertically integrated, proprietary products illegal, because for some reason consumers seem to like them, but we think, for all the wrong reasons, so we need to step in and tell these consumers they're wrong and give them something they'll like much better." EU turns its head towards PayPal and Spotify and asks, "How does that sound?"

Apple should just install Android on all new EU iPhones and call it a day. That's what the EU is pushing for anyway; for iOS to be more open like Android.


And in the US, lawmakers there have turned their attention towards the auto industry and recently proclaimed, "We think all car manufacturers should only make pick up trucks, because all those people who chose to buy sedans can't haul as much and are constantly asking their truck owning friends and family for help. So we're stepping in and taking that choice away!  And... Companies that make truck bed liners will have a much bigger target market."