mjtomlin

darkvader said:

They're nuts.

Sure, a few people are going to be fine not owning a car.  Most of those people already don't own a car today.  Uber is a thing, taxis are a thing, buses are a thing, you can have somebody else drive you around if you want.  And yes, autonomous taxis will be a thing.

But Americans at least are NOT going to give up on the concept of personal car ownership.  If you own the car, it's there when you need it, you have the freedom to make last minute plan changes.  And (this is really important) you can leave your stuff in it.  You don't have to worry about whether you left something in the taxi.  If you're going somewhere that you need more stuff than you want to carry into where you're going, you can leave the rest in the car and get it later if you need it.

The concept that Americans are going to give up owning cars is as crazy as the concept that most Americans would give up on owning homes.

Maybe you're missing something that could possibly disrupt ride sharing, car rental and the automotive industry?

What if Apple creates a service where you can not only catch a ride, but possibly even rent the car for X amount of hours or days?

KITA said:

Just so everyone is aware, if NUVIA's performance claims are true (keep in mind the big "if"), then Qualcomm will be ahead of the M1 and more likely in a position to compete with an M2 series chip:



Given the reputation of the engineers behind NUVIA and the fact that Qualcomm paid a relatively significant sum for them to fill this exact need, it does give their claim some merit. So don't be surprised if it does end up competing with Apple's late 2022 / early 2023 offerings.

Once again though, we still have yet to see an actual product, so take this with a grain of salt until we do.

Using this chart is a bit misleading, don't you think? This is a marketing chart used to attract investors. The bottom of those targeted stats are probably where they were at, the top is what they hope to achieve, "with enough funding".

If the A15 was on this chart it would lay smack dab in the middle of NUVIA's projected target; ~1800 @ 3.5W. And that's out now.

Let's also not forget that this design is for server applications, i.e. very expensive. I'm guessing this is going to have to be scaled way back to make it cost effective for Qualcomm to produce.

chadbag said:

blastdoor said:

Will Intel and AMD eventually dump x86 to make ARM chips instead? 
Will Intel's future mostly be as a foundry making Nuvia chips?

Interesting times!

Kind of funny and sad and ironic as Intel has had ARM based tech and processors for over 20 years.  Intel has XScale processors, based on ARM, which they got through DEC's StrongARM processor family that they acquired with DEC'S processor business purchase. StrongARM was actually developed by DEC for Apple for use with the Newton MessagePad.  

XScale division was sold to another company many years ago. And I wouldn't go as far to say that StrongARM was developed for Apple. Apple just happened to be a possible client, since they were already using ARM in the Newton.

The real irony here is that Apple was the company that originally convinced and teamed up with Acorn to develop an extremely low-power version of their ARM CPU's so that they can be used in the upcoming Newton. Then, Apple basically abandoned ARM only to return and become one of the most competent ARM core design teams in the world.

A system needs to be put in place where a developer can't charge users willy-nilly. Apple would still want to be able to protect users from such activities and that would require new API's where purchase authorization still has to go through "Apple" somehow. For instance, Apple would not provide payment information to the app until the user authorizes the transaction.

9secondkox2 said:

M1 Max2 or whatever based on A15 should be done in time to launch this. Double the core Counts. Increase allowable power draw. Maintain two efficiency cores for mundane tasks to keep usage low when power isn’t needed. But make sure the thing has the ability to eat when we need it to. It’s a DESKTOP.  

Should be two more M1's in the pipeline, still based on A14 cores; M1 Ultra, and M1 Extreme. Just as there are still two more systems that need to transition to Apple silicon. The new higher end iMac will be released this Summer and get a binned "Ultra" (12+4/48) and the Mac Pro will be released in the Fall with full "Ultra" (16+4/64) and "Extreme" (32+8/128)

M2 will be based on the A16 and released in the Fall. I'd guess in new 12" and 14" MacBooks and an iPad Pro.

In the meantime, this Spring, MacBook Air will a colorful update. Mac mini will get M1 Pro/Max upgrade options. Highest-end 24" iMac may get a low-end "binned" M1 Pro (6+2/14)