mjtomlin

Beats said:

Do you think Apple will have a closed App Store except for rare software? I'm thinking Apple is gonna reset apps for Mac with Apple Silicon. This will close security holes etc.

tmay said:

Beats said:

Before the announcement I joked that iPad Air will get A14 and iPhone will get A14X this year. Surprised half of the joke's been confirmed!

I think that the A14X, should there be one, will be reserved for next spring's edition of the iPad Pro. 

Still, the iPad Air promises the first legitimate benchmarks of the A14, even if those should not be extrapolated to the iPhone 13.

cloudguy said:

tmay said:

cloudguy said:

A14 is only hexacore. Strange. Was certain that it was going to be octa-core. Hexacore is good enough to replace the i3 and i5 in the Mac Mini and MacBook Air, but for MacBook Pro and iMac they are going to need an octacore design at minimum.

CloudDude, the A series SOC isn't going to be used in any production Mac, so you can stop clutching your pearls.

I have read in various places that it was. Some have said that it would not be, but more places have stated that it would be than would not. Do you have a link? Thanks.

linuxplatform said:

Apple wanted to charge Samsung a $50 per device fee over TRADE DRESS and you are upset over Qualcomm wanting about $2 per device over VITAL FUNCTIONALITY WITHOUT WHICH THE DEVICE WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL THAT THEY INVESTED BILLIONS OF R&D DEVELOPING? Man you people are sick ...

verne arase said:

gatorguy said:

I never seriously doubted QC would be successful with their appeal.  Now will come the appeal of the appeal ruling. 

It doesn't matter to Apple anyway as they already came to an agreement with Qualcomm that both parties are satisfied with. No doubt QC was already aware of Apple plans for building their own chipset to replace them and getting a 6 year revenue contract with Apple was a good move considering they wouldn't be needed by then anyway except for essential patent licenses.

There was no agreement ... Apple caved due to their need for 5G in the iPhone 12.

Apple should never have withdrawn their FTC complaint and testified to Qualcomm's extortion in the Smartphone industry. Qualcomm's gotten away with their abuse of standards bodies and FRAND terms for much too long.

This will come back to haunt Apple later on when they attempt to manufacture and distribute phones using their own chips.

cropr said:

Rayz2016 said:

Beats said:

Microsoft thought they would get special treatment. They'll come along eventually. Android users hate paying for things and most knockoff devices have terrible quality screens and crap performance(Yes AI smart asses, I KNOW this is cloud computing, not the point).

Admittedly I missed this line before posting the above:
"App Store guidelines state that an app can't rely on streaming from the cloud."

What about video like Hulu?

The Hulu app isn’t streamed. The Hulu content is. 

I’m with Apple here, but I’m not sure how this would work. We can’t have the game devs being charged once by Apple and then charged again by Microsoft. They’ll have to split the one charge between them.

A video streaming app like Netflix is an app that get its content (the movie)  form a cloud server.  The app has buttons to control the content (change movie, rewind, forward, ...)

A cloud gaming app like Microsoft xCloud is an app that get its content (the game content) from a cloud server.  The app has buttons to control the content (move, shoot,  ...)

I am not a Microsoft fan,  and the X-Box is also a closed gaming system, but Microsoft has a point.  The difference of treatment in the App Store between Netflix and Microsoft xCloud is just pathetic.

What is Netflix or another provider,  comes with interactive movies, where 2 or more scenarios are streamed depending on user input.  The difference between video streaming and gaming will become more blurry

CloudTalkin said:

Rayz2016 said:

InspiredCode said:

This is frustrating because it feels very arbitrary. Apple likes to say everyone needs to follow the same rules, but is it really that bad to make an exception when a large number of users want it to happen.  Making unpopular decisions based on strictly following rules that Apple themselves wrote isn't a great way to win hearts and minds.

It is often mentioned that Apple wants individual games to be listed in the store separately, but there are exceptions in the store.  For example the Jackbox Party Pack's are a collection of games in a single app. This is a good thing most of the time. I've hoped for some legal emulators by Nintendo or Sega. These should certainly be self contained apps.

I hope that Microsoft will at least release the streaming app for home Xbox consoles. 

Well, first, it’s not arbitrary. The rule is there to keep malware in the store down to a minimum. 

Secondly, you’ve misunderstood the problem. Game collections aren’t the issue because they’re submitted for verification as a bundle. What MS wants to do is install an app that will stream other applications into an iDevice. These streamed applications have not been verified by Apple. 

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

You may offer a single subscription that is shared across your own apps and services, but these subscriptions may not extend to third-party apps or services. Games offered in a game subscription must be owned or exclusively licensed by the developer (e.g. not part of a game publishing platform). Each game must be downloaded directly from the App Store, must be designed to avoid duplicate payment by a subscriber, and should not disadvantage non-subscriber customers.

Now, you probably think, so what?

So here’s a timely reminder of why Apple does this:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/05/now-fixed-exploit-used-microsoft-office-macros-to-hack-macos

Here we have an app (Microsoft Office) compromising iOS because it can programs that haven’t been checked. 

It’s the  same reason why Apple won’t allow apps to streamed then run. 

Seems as if you've misunderstood the problem.  Simply put MS is offering what Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Amazon Prime, and all of the other streaming services are offering.  That's it.  Streaming Ori and Will of the Wisps on XCloud is no different than streaming Blind Spot on Hulu, Doom Patrol on HBO, or the Boys on Amazon Prime.  The only difference is a game is more interactive than a movie but the control function of either is essentially the same in a streaming environment: 
1. Game and movie are hosted on a remote server and streamed to device.
2. User input for game (pew-pew, hack-slash)  or movie (Play, FF, RW, Pause) is relayed from user's control mechanism (controller or remote) back to remote server
3.  Apple doesn't vet any of the content from the aforementioned streaming services.  That content is covered by the MPAA ratings.  Microsoft's content is covered by the ESRB ratings.

Your red herring about an MS exploit is just that, a red herring.  It has absolutely nothing to do with why Apple won't allow streamed apps to run.