jSnively

Respite said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

Wesley Hilliard said:

tht said:

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Burden of proof is one of the basic concepts in critical thought. Go take a logic class and it will be one of the first concepts covered. 

In critical thought/logic the burden of proof is the responsibility of the person making the claim.  In this case that is you. That you have declined to offer any proof and are falling back on “go look at the information yourself” just underscores how weak your argument is. 

An offhand comment in a casual conversation doesn't require evidence.  Get over yourself.  You're welcome to disbelieve someone, but no need to be a dick, ands it's probably ill-advised when the person you're being a dick to has moderation powers.

Yeah...

I'm just going to point out that we try and cultivate a generally positive atmosphere here. Part of that is ensuring that people act and speak in a respectful manner. If you take issue with something then by all means please give us feedback, that's a big part of why we still have forums. We are happy to run corrections and address concerns based off that, especially if we got something wrong. If, however, you choose to engage in a manner which is openly antagonistic or disrespectful you are not only undermining your own goal by making people discount and ignore you, if persistent enough you are also putting your account at risk. We are under no obligation to entertain that kind of behavior.

Food for thought. 

mikethemartian said:

So close to launch I was expecting to see much more coverage in the press than I’ve seen.

We have had a fair bit of coverage on it. The infulencers Apple has anointed are waiting for NDAs to be lifted (that will come as one big media push), and the rest of us are waiting for ours to show up in the mail before we can really speak with authority on the subject. We do have an content roadmap planned around the launch 

In short, you can expect the media machine to start working overtime in the coming week. We're just 6 days out from having them in our homes and in our hands 

Stabitha_Christie said:

Per Mark German the count is now up to 250. The problem with this article is it o my captures a moment in time was developers are finishing and uploading apps. 

Also, some context. When Mac OS X came out oh so long ago it had fewer apps than Vision Pro. It also completely lacked large developer support. Microsoft didn’t release a native version of office out of the gate. At that point there were millions of active Mac users in the world. And other than Apple Works, iMovie  and Internet Explorer we didn’t have much in the way of  major developers doing native app initially. Similarly with the iPad, we had a bunch or warmed over iPhone apps but how long did it take to get something like office on the iPad? By comparison VP is coming out with a ton of Apps and far more robust support from larger developers. Office will be there for day one.  It’s a stark contrast to the past. 

So I’m left questioning, is this article clickbait or is the author so incompetent that he failed to do due diligence and look at what has happened history so he could provide relevant context? 

Again, context. I would suggest you re-read the replies I put above. Have y'all even actually seen the list of software? Everybody understands that 90% of the stuff on the App store is shovelware, and 99.8% of the list is as well. You're free to look over it yourself. As I said before, even saying 150 (which is now 201 according to the list) is generous. We will report the news as it is relevant and it comes in. This isn't an editorial or opinion piece.

We have run multiple pieces of varying enthusiasm and from different editorial perspectives. We featured Dan's positive editorial in our top featured slot all day yesterday, for example. Mike has a piece now, which is less enthusiastic, but looks towards a brighter future for the device. These are the opinions of the writers. You're welcome to agree or disagree, but none of them are are even approaching incompetent just because you disagree with something that is reported.

That said, I understand some of you feel context was lacking in this and we'll discuss it internally.

Steve Humiston said:

People with vision issues are looking at VR and AR for QoL enhancements.. I was definitely hoping. However, because of my disease I HAVE to wear hard contact lenses and I cannot buy this..

We will have some articles on accessibility once we get them in our hands. For some people it's just going to be rough, unfortunately 🙁

charlesn said:

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It's not a case of covering Apple only in a positive light. But when you devote a headline and seven paragraphs to bemoan that "only" 150 native apps are available at launch--while providing zero information about what those apps are and what they do--you may want to consider that you've chosen doomsaying over actually informing your readers. 

Context is important, and I will have to sit down and re-read the article to make sure we addressed it properly. I think the negative version of this article is "Look at all these top 100 apps visionOS won't support" kinda thing. Don't forget Apple told us VisionOS would be able to leverage the iPadOS ecosystem, and yet you have core applications like YouTube, Netflix, and Spotify disallowing that. Not all that is on Apple, and they don't have a Carmack. So I think quoting the number of working apps is more generous than it may appear at first blush.

We hear the feedback, but I think we may have to agree to disagree on this one.

charlesn said:

jSnively said:

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It's not a case of covering Apple only in a positive light. But when you devote a headline and seven paragraphs to bemoan that "only" 150 native apps are available at launch--while providing zero information about what those apps are and what they do--you may want to consider that you've chosen doomsaying over actually informing your readers. 

It's something we keep an eye on. It was much easier in the 90s, and early aughts when Apple was a rebel-yell, and it's a lot harder today when they've effectively "won." I think part of what makes AVP exciting is that it has some of that old spirit, but because they're such a behemoth the expectations are much higher than before, and the audience is different too.