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HandsomeSmitty said:

Watching Miani's DoobToob response to today's release, he's wondering why Apple would do this, and also why Apple state that possibly future chips might not get an 'Ultra' upgrade.

Dood--MONEY! Money has always been Apple's motivation with his incremental upgrades. Imagine what an M4 Ultra's processing power could be, and then consider why any Ultra buyers would NEED to upgrade ever again? Or how many people would settle for an M4 Max Studio instead of going the laptop routes.

"Money Money Mooooney!"

They’ve been saying that since the M1 came out. It’s likely just sales. This is expensive on all levels. If Apple isn’t getting the sales it needs to be profitable from it, it will wait a generation to reintroduce it. This is the way all companies work. Though Google would just discontinue it altogether.

avon b7 said:

foregoneconclusion said:

avon b7 said: Folding phones have a huge selling point: the folding part. It's safe to say 100% of folding phones are sold on that feature. 

But that doesn't mean customers consider the folding part to be without flaws. And saying folding is a "huge" selling point is contradicted by the actual sales of folding phones.

No one is saying there are no flaws. 

The folding aspect is huge for the people who buy folding phones. It's the number one reason for the sale. How many units are sold is not relevant. 

People most certainly don't buy iPhones for Siri and Apple Intelligence is far from where it needs to be at the moment. 

The number of sales is very relevant. It’s always relevant. If they don’t sell enough, they can’t lay all of the costs, which are huge. They may be selling the phones at a loss. Nobody outside of the companies involved know the answer to that.

Folks, this is the air. It’s a much cheaper tablet than the pro. What do you expect, a product with equal specs to a much more expensive model? This is a pretty good chip, with a good performance increase over the last model. Stop whining!

The reality is that if their modems are noticeably worse, they will lose a few sales. Most people won’t care. If they are about equal, they won’t lose those few sales, but still, most people won’t care. This is an issue for geeks and these who dream that they are geeks. It gives talking heads in YouTube something to gush about either way. Few people care about what they say.

the issues the 4 had with holding the phone made headlines, but didn’t affect sales. It also turned out that all other phones had the same problem to a greater, or lessor, extent. When Apple went to Intel modems, there were a few edge areas that had problems, but otherwise it wasn’t a real problem. It didn’t really affect sales, but because of the publicity, Apple stopped using them.

i don’t expect a problem here either. Even Qualcomm seems confident that Apple will be producing competitive modems.

opinion said:

Is Apple loosing touch with its customers? Because what I see is increasingly bigger iPhones when there’s so many wanting a small iPhone. I know it’s been said that Apple stopped the Mini versions because of not enough being sold, but is that the whole truth and if, maybe things have changed since then. I don’t see so many expressing that they want a foldable iPhone or what the 16e became. By the way, I kind of like the 16e except that it is too big.

Actually, people want larger phones, not smaller ones. The problem when you sell 220 million phones a year is that if “only” a few million want a small phone, it might not cover the developmental costs, plus the warrantee, support, etc. Everyone who wants something that almost nobody else wants gets ticked off when that product is gone.

i remember when the iPhone killed keyboarded phones. These who wanted keyboards screamed about how people wanted them. But those sales just went away. When keyboard products came out, they died for lack of sales. Those people went and bought virtual keyboard phones. The “problem” went away. The same thing is happening here. I have one friend who bought the SE. he claimed bigger phones were too big for his (average sized) hands. His girlfriend bought the Pro version, with her smaller hands.

its mostly, I believe, a price thing. This phone is more expensive and I’m convinced that most people who bought the SE did so because of the price, even if they said it was the size. Most higher end phones are in the larger size, most cheap phones are on the smaller size, and these priced in the middle tend to have in between size screens, cheaper larger screens or slightly better smaller ones.

Apple wants to bring all of their phones to the latest generation technologies, which makes sense. While Apple Intelligence isn’t much right now, in a couple of years it should be and Apple has a history of trying to have all of its products take advantage of their most advanced features.