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doggone said:

High demand or low production rates?  Given that the form factor itself hasn't changed that much, it would be surprising that general manufacturing has been the issue.  Is it that the chip fab or board production is lagging?
It sucks to be waiting for a new laptop, especially given the excitement around the M1 chip.

I hope this doesn't also delay the release of the 16 inch MBP.  My wife's current MBP has a speaker issue so would love to replace it with a new 16 inch unit. 

From what I’m reading, it’s demand. In Japan, for example, Apple went from forth place with 14% marketshare, good by international Mac sales expectations, to 1st place, with a 27% marketshare, just two weeks after release.

What needs to be said in every review, several times when looking at multi core benchmarks, is that Apple’s chips, and this goes for all of them now here, are not really 8 core chips. According to testing, all four of the high efficiency cores together equal one high performance core, approximately. So what we’re really taking about is a 5 core M1 compared to 6 and 8 core chips.

the reason I mention this is because Desktop chips have all cores performing the same. So the comparison is really biased towards those chips. When one realizes that this is really a 5 core equivalent, it’s much more impressive.

CheeseFreeze said:

Appleish said:

I will wait until the second generation chips come out to replace my 16-inch MBP. Adobe won't even have all of their apps updated until late next year at the earliest, so I'm thinking 2022.

It’s pretty terrible Adobe takes so much time. It makes you wonder what their code base looks like. Since they need to cater for both Windows and Mac, they have to deal with two platforms that are becoming more and more different and are probably not leveraging Apple silicon from the ground up the same way Pixelmator Pro 2 could do that.

Adobe has a problem that some others don’t have. A long time ago, Adobe stated that there would be feature parity across the platforms. I get it, even though I’m not happy about it. Ever since Apple’s problems began, the Christmas season 1995, a problem created by themselves due to the decisions made by Michael Spindler, Apple’s CEO at the time, Adobe was forced to consider its own future. It was tied to Apple, as it had no Windows apps. When they decided they had to move there too, they decided to keep both platforms the same, and after some time, actually began to develop on Windows, and port back to the Mac. That was because Windows began to have more users. That’s a story in itself for another time.

sometimes Apple users seem to think that other companies should put Apple ahead of their own success. If you’re cross  platform, you can’t do that. Adobe does what’s best for Adobe, as Apple does what’s best for Apple. If their interests coincide, then everything seems great. If not, we’ll that’s something else. But sometimes Adobe doesn’t support an Apple technology because it’s not supported elsewhere, and that goes against the platform equality philosophy they have.

small companies who are platform enthusiasts don’t have that problem. Also, those apps are much smaller, and simpler that Adobe;s, which have been around for 25 to 30 years, with many major upgrades and feature additions. They also have to be concerned about the vast third party plug-in developer community, whereas the others do not. So it’s a major job.

rob53 said:

youngjm said:

Did anyone see the Tweet from VMWARE announcing their support?  Details forthcoming:

So excited for todays announcements from @Apple! ;

While we're not quite ready to announce our timeline, we're happy to say that we are committed to delivering VMware virtual machines on #AppleSilicon!

https://twitter.com/VMwareFusion/status/1326229094648832000

dewme said:

I really hope VMWare jumps into the M1 camp with Fusion. It's been a solid product and a great value for Mac users who want to run Windows, Linux, and macOS virtual machines on their Mac. I keep a VM with macOS Mojave around just to support 32-bit apps that no longer run on Catalina. Works great.

I don't think a lot of Mac owners fully realize the great deal that the VMWare Fusion Player 12 (for non commercial use) represents for Mac users. The feature set of the free VMWare Fusion Player has one important feature, Snapshots, in the free version that Windows users do not get with the equivalent free version for Windows. To get Snapshots on Windows you'll have to pay for the VMWare Workstation 16 Pro version, which is $199.00 USD. 

This would be nice but again, I think most Fusion users want virtualization for Windows not for unix/linux and Apple has said they won't include or allow any x86 emulation.

Checked out RedHat enterprise and found this:

--ARM architectures
While IBM Power and z Systems are not "new," ARM, specifically the 64-bit ARMv8-A architecture, is new. As an example of our multi-architecture enablement efforts, over the past two years Red Hat has delivered Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server for ARM as a Development Preview to partners designing and building systems based on 64-bit ARMv8-A architecture. This has helped to consolidate, stabilize and standardize ARM hardware support in the base operating system and move it forward to a more mature level.
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https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/4-fine-linux-arm-distros/ Lists four free linux distributions that run on ARM. It would be interesting if Apple tries to recompile Bootcamp for ARM linux distributions or if they simply want users to use virtualization software. It would be nice to see linux running native under Bootcamp making use of the M1's advanced security architecture.

I don’t remember Apple saying they wouldn’t allow it, just that nothing was planned to make it easy.

Something/s not right. They were talking about software running up to 3.8 times faster, so how could performance be equal to a two core Air chip. I just watched it, and I didn’t get that it was equivalent. We’re all missing something.

it just occurred to me what they said. I also said this on Arstechnica. It’s the four efficiency cores that are equal to the MacBook Air x86 chip, not the entire M1