tmay

JWSC said:

tmay said:

GeorgeBMac said:

emoeller said:

Putin is maniacal and not easily dissuaded.   If both iOS and Android were cut off that would be devastating as the home grown mobile OS that Russia is using is terrible.   Along with other sanctions it would cripple the Russian economy.

Putin is far from maniacal.   He is calculating.  Coldly, calculating for what is best for his country.

In 2014 Hillary promised Ukraine a NATO membership if they left the Russian fold.

NATO and its missiles, fighter planes, bombers, tanks, etc... on Russia's border are a direct threat to Russia -- just as they were to us in 1960 when Russia started moving them into Cuba.

How did Putin respond to Hillary's foolishness?  By making sure she was not elected president.  And, we didn't hear anymore about NATO in Ukraine till Biden took office.

How did Russia respond to all of that?

Russia wanted ALL Ukrainians to have a vote - so they supported the Minsk agreement.  But western Ukraine blocked it (after agreeing to it) -- so only western Ukrainians got to vote -- and they are voting to let in NATO missiles next door to Russia.   Russia is understandably worried about that -- just as we were when missiles were shipped to Cuba in 1960 when we said:  Either remove them or there WILL BE WAR!

The west knows better than to face Russia militarily.  So it is taking the Trump route with "sanctions".
But, like with Trump's.  It is us who will pay the price. Oil prices are already headed up to $100.

Meanwhile, we've been throwing economic warfare around since 2016 and those we are targeting are beginning to take action to defend themselves.  That will weaken us even further.  Actually, a LOT further when the dollar and U.S. financial systems are no longer the world standard.

The losers in this cock fight will be, once again, us, the people.

All we have to do is commit to never letting NATO into Ukraine and this nonsense would be at an end.  We would lose nothing and the world would gain peace.

But no.  Instead we're starting an economic war.

... Stupid.   Very, very stupid.

The post above is chock full of misinformation.

Given the many times that I have countered George since he has been here, I'll spare you the details. Do your own searches on the details.

Here a twitter link to current news on the Ukraine Crisis;

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461

I don’t know about the misinformation part. While I don’t agree with everything George said above, I agree with most of it, especially the conclusion. The losers will be us.

Economic sanctions will be ineffective and only hurt technology businesses such as Apple. Banning the direct sales of iPhones and Macs will only encourage third party intermediaries. It’s pointless.

So, you didn't investigate any of George's claims, and you are passively on the side of Russia, because there is some kind of indirect financial pain that technology businesses will feel.

Good to know.

Meanwhile, the EU is ramping up sanctions, and the EU will definitely feel the economic pain of that, for a short time anyway;

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_22_1281

The decision of the Russian Federation to recognise as independent entities and send Russian troops to certain areas of Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts is illegal and unacceptable. It violates international law, Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty, Russia's own international commitments and it further escalates the crisis.

Both Presidents welcome the steadfast unity of Member States and their determination to react with robustness and speed to the illegal actions of Russia in close coordination with international partners.

An informal meeting of EU Foreign Affairs Ministers chaired by the High Representative will take place today at 4 pm. Following that, a first package of sanctions will be formally tabled later this afternoon.

Appropriate bodies will then meet to finalise the package without delay.

The package contains proposals:

• to target those who were involved in the illegal decision,
• to target banks that are financing Russian military and other operations in those territories,
• to target the ability of the Russian state and government to access the EU's capital and financial markets and services, to limit the financing of escalatory and aggressive policies,
• and to target trade from the two breakaway regions to and from the EU, to ensure that those responsible clearly feel the economic consequences of their illegal and aggressive actions.

The EU has prepared and stands ready to adopt additional measures at a later stage if needed in the light of further developments.

Both Presidents supported by the High Representative continue to follow closely developments on the ground and consult with fellow EU leaders and international counterparts.

The Union remains in full solidarity with Ukraine and united in support for its sovereignty and territorial integrity.

We stand by and will continue to support Ukraine and its people.

Were you aware that mothers in Ukraine are pinning the blood types of their children onto their children's clothing, just in case something happens, like you know, a brutal invasion by Russia into their lives?

GeorgeBMac said:

emoeller said:

Putin is maniacal and not easily dissuaded.   If both iOS and Android were cut off that would be devastating as the home grown mobile OS that Russia is using is terrible.   Along with other sanctions it would cripple the Russian economy.

Putin is far from maniacal.   He is calculating.  Coldly, calculating for what is best for his country.

In 2014 Hillary promised Ukraine a NATO membership if they left the Russian fold.

NATO and its missiles, fighter planes, bombers, tanks, etc... on Russia's border are a direct threat to Russia -- just as they were to us in 1960 when Russia started moving them into Cuba.

How did Putin respond to Hillary's foolishness?  By making sure she was not elected president.  And, we didn't hear anymore about NATO in Ukraine till Biden took office.

How did Russia respond to all of that?

Russia wanted ALL Ukrainians to have a vote - so they supported the Minsk agreement.  But western Ukraine blocked it (after agreeing to it) -- so only western Ukrainians got to vote -- and they are voting to let in NATO missiles next door to Russia.   Russia is understandably worried about that -- just as we were when missiles were shipped to Cuba in 1960 when we said:  Either remove them or there WILL BE WAR!

The west knows better than to face Russia militarily.  So it is taking the Trump route with "sanctions".
But, like with Trump's.  It is us who will pay the price. Oil prices are already headed up to $100.

Meanwhile, we've been throwing economic warfare around since 2016 and those we are targeting are beginning to take action to defend themselves.  That will weaken us even further.  Actually, a LOT further when the dollar and U.S. financial systems are no longer the world standard.

The losers in this cock fight will be, once again, us, the people.

All we have to do is commit to never letting NATO into Ukraine and this nonsense would be at an end.  We would lose nothing and the world would gain peace.

But no.  Instead we're starting an economic war.

... Stupid.   Very, very stupid.

The post above is chock full of misinformation.

Given the many times that I have countered George since he has been here, I'll spare you the details. Do your own searches on the details.

Here a twitter link to current news on the Ukraine Crisis;

https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461

jas99 said:

Full-scale sanctions should scare Putin. 

The U.S. has backing on tech export controls from Japan, Singapore, and Taiwan. 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/22/biden-russia-ukraine-sanctions-asia-allies-export-controls-invasion-plans/

GeorgeBMac said:

As always, it's the software and ecosystem that do the work.

Apple needs to let them catch-up to the M1 before making M2, M3, M4, etc... super chips.  Otherwise, with the exception of a few power users, their speed and power will be wasted.

I'm just not reading widespread complaints about "too" performant Apple products, likely because the software will almost certainly surpass device capability prior to end of life; future proofing at work.

I do read that complaint now and again on AI, in a standard dismissal of Apple's performance advantage, and primarily from users of non-Apple products. No one has a gun to your head to purchase a more performant Mac, and if you are unhappy with the state of Apple's software, then why not actually complain about that?

GeorgeBMac said:

I would love to flip this record over and hear the other side.  

There is obviously a lot more to this story/saga.

But then you run up against China itself blocking the IPO out of fear that the U.S. would, once again, declare some National Security bullshit and claim that "ARM technology" is no longer available to Chinese corporations.

Be better educated about ARM China;

https://www.zdnet.com/article/arms-fired-china-jv-head-refuses-to-leave-company-reps-banned-from-company-premises/

The ongoing battle does not just impact the fate of Arm China, but also how investment in China itself may be viewed in the future by foreign companies. Wu is the key representative of the venture and under Chinese law, is able to cling on to his position despite Arm's wish to remove him.  

As the dispute has not led to a peaceful resolution and has now become both public and bitter, this may prompt foreign entities considering entering the Chinese business arena to rethink their positions -- especially if valuable IP is involved. 

The Chinese government has been called upon by both companies to step in. Unless resolved quickly, this may also become a test as to whether or not Chinese regulators are willing to rethink local laws to pacify foreign companies in dispute. 

Is this the same China that had censors blur a globe in a "Friends" scene because Taiwan was shown in a different color?

https://fortune.com/2022/02/14/friends-streaming-china-censored-lgbt-plot-ross-ex-wife/

For example, in one instance, the Chinese version omits Ross’ explanation for his divorce: His ex-wife is a lesbian. In the original episode, Ross tells his parents, “So, here’s the deal: Carol’s a lesbian. She’s living with a woman named Susan. She’s pregnant with my child. And she and Susan are going to raise the baby.” His parents look at each other in shock. 

In China, the scene skips from “Here’s the deal” to the parents looking shocked. 

In another scene, the uncensored version shows a globe in the background. In China, the globe is too blurry to identify clearly. 

The censorship hasn’t been lost on fans. A hashtag on the censorship was viewed more than 54 million times on the Twitter-like Weibo service before it was later removed, CNN reported over the weekend. Comments by viewers on the Bilibili streaming service criticized the changes for rendering plotlines incomprehensible. 

ARM China is a clusterfuck due to China's own policies.