waterrockets

In before "Apple confirms Siri consults Google Assistant for delayed answers"

(I missed you all -- this was enough to bring me back in -- flame away)

TurboPGT said:

scampercom said:

The question isn’t whether you adore Clinton (which I do not… but that’s irrelevant). It’s whether you want an administration whose tech platform backs Apple’s positions on encryption, privacy, innovation. That was the question, and that, I do.

Its good for you to understand that the government is the government...no administration, of any flavor, is going to back Apple over the FBI. Ever. Just remember that.

There really is no issue with Apple's encryption. The FBI's difficulty getting into a locked iPhone was a false flag. An administration can support Apple in the commercial sense without any conflict of interest with three-letter-agencies, because the interested three-letter-agencies can crack whatever they want.

An administration forcing a company to implement a back door would also be a false flag, or really just straight-up propaganda.

Lib-Simulator said:

daven said:

So what is your excuse for Tim McVay, the Sandy Hook shooter, the church shooter, the Columbine shooters, etc.? In the end I think objective people will conclude that the Orlando shooter was more motivated about being a conflicted gay than about a religious ideology. Reports are that he frequented gay bars, used gay dating apps, etc. Hardly activities that fit into being a devout Muslim.

Why are liberals so eager to defend Islam? Or deflect from Islam when they can't?  McVeigh was agnostic and not motiviated by religion at all, yet he's always mentioned when trying to deflect from islam. In about a dozen Muslim countries (about 100 million people) the modern legal penalty for homosexuality is death. These are not their "radical" views, but part of their mainstream culture. And that culture is now being aggressively imported into the USA.

If Omar was really gay, don't you think one of his partners woudl have surfaced by now? None have, because none exist. He was just casing the people and establishment he was planning to kill. He was just studying the lifestyle that he (as tought by his religion) would like to exterminate.  Lots of relevant info here:

http://www.TheReligionOfPeace.com

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By all means, let's blame 100% of Muslims for the laws representing 6% of their population.

Are you always this bad with numbers? 

sog35 said:

IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS OVER 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE WILL BUY THEIR FIRST SMART PHONE.

2.5 BILLION PEOPLE.

WORLDWIDE SMARTPHONE PENETRATION IS AT 40%

FEATURE PHONES STILL OUT NUMBER SMARTPHONES WORLDWIDE.

What do the demographics of those 2.5BN people look like? What's the overlap with targeted iPhone user demographics?

The reason FEATURE PHONES STILL OUT NUMBER <sic> SMARTPHONES WORLDWIDE is because these are people who can afford a $13 phone that lasts 10 years.

sog35 said:

waterrockets said:

Well, you can get a Nexus 5x for $200 now, with a one-month ($20) commitment to Project Fi.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/review/iphone/iphone-6s-vs-nexus-5x-3627323/

The 5x is a decent phone but it isn't the level of an iPhone.

Keep in mind the 5x is almost 6 months old so you are only guaranteed 12 months of OS updates. If you only keep your phones for 12 months then maybe its a decent deal.

But that cheap price also highlights a major weakness in Android phones - resale. With iPhones you get $100-$300 more in resale value and that makes up most of the difference in initial cost.  With that in mind you are actually only paying about $100 more over 2 years getting an iPhone. We are talking pennies a day.

iPhone 6s $550
Nexus 5x $220

iPhone resale after 2 years- $200
Nexus 5x resale after 2 years - $0

iPhone additional cost to own $130
Cost to own per day over Nexus - 18 cents a day

You have some errors...

The Nexus 5 is 2.5 years old, and is selling for $50 used (nonzero). Some 2yr iPhones are selling at $200, but good-screen $150 is easy to find. Additional cost to own an iPhone is really closer to $230 every two years. That said, cost is my last consideration for phone choice. I'm buying Android because it's the best for me, and I'd pay $750 if that's what it took. It just turns out that the very best Android phones are starting at around $300, and are discounted from there (Nexus and Moto X).

My (shelved) Nexus 4 received nearly instant updates for 3 years. That's a Nexus thing. They do abandon them, but I'm a 24-month kind of owner and will never see it.

I agree that the iPhone hardware is generally superior, but not to the point that it matters much, and it's not perfect. The 5x is performant, has a great screen and chassis, and is kept current by the manufacturer. 

Right now I'm on a 2014 Moto X that I bought for $300, and it's kept up to date as well (not quite as current as Nexus, but 6-9 months ahead of Samsung). I much prefer my Moto X chassis because it's waterproof. I don't have to worry about rainstorms on long road bike rides or making sure to bring/find baggies. Great support too, as I dropped it one time too many, and cracked the screen, and they replaced the whole phone for $100 (amounts to a battery refresh to replace my 18 month old battery).

There's a lot of Android crap out there, but you have a premium experience for a good price. I think Android can be leveraged better by technically sophisticated users, while the iPhone provides a great experience for all levels of user. Different strokes.