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sog35 said:

paul turner said:

God this is so boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake me up once the stock price has hit $90 again so I can buy back in

ain't going to happen son.  Sorry, you missed the train.

That's right, you're the one that called $150 by 12.31.15 or self ban.  How'd that prediction work out for ya?  Kinda went backwards, eh?

sog35 said:

fallenjt said:

Then make it a little thicker. Big deal! Apple did that for 6S, why not SE2 next year?

just face it. You were wrong. Now you are trying to blame Apple since they didn't follow 'your plan'

Funny hearing you say that to someone else

Without an established refresh cycle, its pretty much a crap shoot as to when AW-2/AW-S will come out.  I find it much more likely that they have an S variant (probably under a different naming scheme than "S") than a "2".  I plan on keeping the Apple Watches I have till they die.  I want to see how long they will last, both hardware and software (updates), before I even think about buying another.  Hopefully by then we'll be on at least the 3rd or 4th gen.

Remember Apple back in the Apple ][ days?  

Sure they were a computer company and they sold computers (they are a cell phone maker now, by revenue), but the computer they sold changed very little while the rest of the market literally stole its' thunder.  Apple had trouble producing a follow up, even with Steve, and mounted a brief comeback with the OG Mac.  They then had trouble coming up with a comeback after the OG Mac wasn't in favor anymore.  They didn't comeback from that fall till the iPod/iMac.

It's unrealistic to think iPhone growth was/is going to be up, up, up every year till infinity.  Apple is doing too little to improve it YoY just like they did with the Apple ][ so I think the sales of iPhone will follow suit.  Sure throw in "but.. but.. Samsung is doing worse too, so is Sony, so is Moto!" if you want to bury your head.  That's because we are reaching that saturation point that slammed PC makers.  Once PC's got pretty darn fast, people started to upgrade them much more slowly than they did previously (or they added their first PC during the post-dot-com era and don't upgrade till it's dead).  Economy aside, there wasn't a need to upgrade when your PC was still fast enough to do what you wanted, not just needed.  Thats when Dell, HP, etc all saw their market kinda dry up.  This is where we are approaching with the iPhone and iPad.

The leaps in iPhone speed have been tremendous and a true testament to the engineers at Apple.  The same leaps have made me reconsider when my next iPhone purchase will happen.  The iPhone 5 was fast enough for what I and a vast majority of others that don't live and breathe tech.  I bought a 6 plus thinking bigger would be better, but I'm on a 6 right now.  I have no desire for a 6S.  The 7 is a definite "wait and see".  The only reason I bought a 6 over keeping my 5 is the screen size.  Thats the only feature other than TouchID that I use every day that is different from the 5 (if TouchID was important I could have had that in the 5S, but it's not really that important, I just use it every day to unlock my phone now that I have it).

For me to consider a 7 it'll need: real water resistance, better screen, a much better design, and better battery life during intensive tasks.  Otherwise I'll just stick with the 6.  I've had to spend about $300 in it to bend it (no pun intended) into something I can truly live with (battery case so it can last more than 12 hours if I need it, battery/weather resistant case so I can take it with me more places so my Watch will continue to work well, etc).  So after that I'm not in a mood to do it all again.  If I don't get a 7, I'll be skipping iOS 10 so I don't end up with "unnecessary, poorly thought out manufactured obsolesce, slow iPhone disease".

It's just not a normal thing out there in the non-mac-forum world to always have the latest iPhone like it is here where you are reading this.  In some other circles yes, but those circles are even smaller in number than the mac forum crowd.  The market of smart phones has entered or is darn close to saturation.  There are emerging markets that could pick up the slack that will develop in the first world but they are too busy being swung around by other economic forces to be a reliable source of new customers for smart phones.

kraytinprime said:

tmay said:

Sog is having a nervous breakdown.
He isn't the investor that he has portrayed for years.
He is a gambler, and he got caught up in the Casino.
Unfortunately, he might not be able to wait for the market to shift back to quality, and AAPL.

Personally, and I own no AAPL, I would want Tim to continue on the path of broadening Apple's reach to more markets, and filling the pipeline with more of the niche hardware (merely 10's of millions of units) and continue bolstering the ecosystem.

Easy for you to say that Tim is doing a 'good' job. 
You don't own any Apple shares.
I friken do. And my Apple shares have gone down $40,000 because of stupid ass bullshit rumors and a stupid ass CEO who refuses to dispute those rumors.

Now if Apple was struggling and sales sucked, I would take it like a man and swallow my $40k loss. But that's not what's happenning. I have a $40k loss because the CEO is showing gross negligence in protecting the Apple stock and company reputation.

You're down $40K because you invested with something other than your brain... It's no one's fault but your own.  Grow up.