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  • Europe asks if Digital Markets Act should apply to iMessage


    avon b7 said:
    spheric said:
    What a stupid decision . Off course al apple competitors are going to say yet.
    So if you’re going to decide how to deal with a potential threat to free markets, you shouldn’t hear what the other players in the market have to say about it? 

    The competitors will have opinions, and they will have to explain and justify them. They might make good arguments that the Commission has not yet taken into account, since they might involve business data points. 

    Remember that — as always — this legislation does not apply just to Apple, but to ALL players. They might bring arguments that let Apple off the hook, if it helps their own case. 
    An app isn’t a threat. 

    iMessage isn’t harming anyone, nor is it anticompetitive in any way. It’s just better than everyone else. And that’s a good thing. 

    The EU: haters of American success a long time running. 
    Really? 

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-confirms-imessage-locks-users-into-ios-and-putting-it-on-android-would-hurt-apple/

    Is it now the only non-cross platform IM app on the market?

    In this day and age, should messaging really be platform specific? 

    And before you say it, SMS isn't the cross platform side of Messages. It's a completely different system. 
    Of course it should, if that’s what the platform creator wants to do and that’s what their customers enjoy. 

    Should Burger King be forced to offer Big Macs? Or can they continue to just offer their own product? Hmm. 
    You've pulled up the wrong crappy comparison. That's the one you wanted to use for the "Apple needs to allow multiple app stores" discussion. This is the "should all messenger services be interoperable, and is iMessage big enough to be considered a serious market force in Europe" thread. 

    ctt_zh
  • Europe asks if Digital Markets Act should apply to iMessage


    spheric said:
    What a stupid decision . Off course al apple competitors are going to say yet.
    So if you’re going to decide how to deal with a potential threat to free markets, you shouldn’t hear what the other players in the market have to say about it? 

    The competitors will have opinions, and they will have to explain and justify them. They might make good arguments that the Commission has not yet taken into account, since they might involve business data points. 

    Remember that — as always — this legislation does not apply just to Apple, but to ALL players. They might bring arguments that let Apple off the hook, if it helps their own case. 
    An app isn’t a threat. 

    iMessage isn’t harming anyone, nor is it anticompetitive in any way. It’s just better than everyone else. And that’s a good thing. 

    The EU: haters of American success a long time running. 

    Of course. We just all hate America. 

    The usual "country-before-brains" idiocy aside: iMessage isn't just "an app". It's a service, and it's built-in as the default on the second-biggest computing platform in the world. 

    It's not quite dissimilar to the Microsoft lawsuit, where the legendary "haters of American success" - The United States' Federal Trade Commission — sued Microsoft for disadvantaging other browsers by bundling Internet Explorer. 
    watto_cobra
  • Europe asks if Digital Markets Act should apply to iMessage

    badmonk said:
    mayfly said:
    The EU should focus on higher priority issues. Guess they forgot there's a war on their border. Oh wait a second: there's TWO wars on their borders. Winter is coming, with sanctions on the Russian oil and gas they rely on to keep from freezing to death. Inflation is worse than it is here. France, England and Germany were sent reeling from record heat waves and flooding, killing thousands. Right wing extremist authoritarianism is spreading like wildfires, driven by anti-immigrant fervor.

    And their knickers are in a knot about iMessage?



    You also left out that the European automakers are about to be swamped by cheap Chinese EV imports and their automakers are going to be unable to compete against this tide.  The automotive industry in Europe is a big part of the EU economy.

    The fact that they can’t see this coming is mind boggling.
    We've all seen it coming for a long time. But that's like saying that protecting minorities, and access to clean drinking water, and speeding tickets, and spousal abuse are irrelevant and shouldn't be dealt with until the threat of a fascist takeover of the United States is conclusively thwarted. 

    The big problems do not make dealing with the somewhat smaller problems less important, nor does dealing with smaller problems take away from the big problems. 
    watto_cobra
  • Europe asks if Digital Markets Act should apply to iMessage

    What a stupid decision . Off course al apple competitors are going to say yet.
    So if you’re going to decide how to deal with a potential threat to free markets, you shouldn’t hear what the other players in the market have to say about it? 

    The competitors will have opinions, and they will have to explain and justify them. They might make good arguments that the Commission has not yet taken into account, since they might involve business data points. 

    Remember that — as always — this legislation does not apply just to Apple, but to ALL players. They might bring arguments that let Apple off the hook, if it helps their own case. 
    williamlondonctt_zhAlex1Nwatto_cobra
  • Steve Jobs wanted Macintosh design to be like the early Beatles

    macxpress said:
    macxpress said:
    Is this like, make the iMac look like a sunflower and we got the iMac G4 which BTW was a very cool and great looking Mac but overall was a poor iMac. The arm mechanism was a failure point on many of those. 
    I had a G4 iMac for years, the arm was never a problem.  I guess YMMV.
    Accessing the inside WAS a problem...
    It's also why the eMac was created because the iMac G4 wasn't durable enough for education use. Also price as well. The arm and LCD screen made the iMac quite expensive compared to its outgoing models which were priced as low a I think $699 at the time. 
    The only reason for the eMac was price. LCDs back then were expensive. 

    The arm may have eventually become a general problem over time, but it certainly never seemed like a common point of failure within a machine’s “useful” life while I was still in Apple service. 
    watto_cobra