spheric

So it turns out that when EU laws are applied to Apple, it's because the corrupt and overreaching EU is targeting US tech to protect its own industry — except it doesn't have homegrown alternatives. 

And when Korean laws are applied to Apple it's because the corrupt South Korean government is targeting US tech to protect its own industry — Samsung. 

The common denominator, weirdly, is Apple's (and Google's) behaviour. 

Hmm. 

dee_dee said:

spheric said:

Well, apparently it is in part Apple‘s fault (though partly for allowing Instagram to use that much power), and its iOS 17, and nothing to do with the new hardware. 

https://daringfireball.net/2023/10/overheatgate_nothingburger

This snippet indicates to me that it is related to the new hardware:

Another issue involves some recent updates to third-party apps that are causing them to overload the system. We’re working with these app developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling out.

Being able to drain the battery at the rate of 1% a minute should not be possible, and given that this was separate from the iOS bug would indicate hardware.

Just a few sentences on, the link explicitly mentions that that particular issue affected both an iPhone 15 Pro AND an iPhone 14 Pro…
”…showing the buggy version of Instagram heating two different iPhones to 100°F: one an iPhone 15 Pro, the other a year-old iPhone 14 Pro. Exact same overheating issue.”

Care to revise your assessment?

dee_dee said:

spheric said:

darkvader said:

So, the same version of the same app isn't a problem on earlier iPhones or iOS versions.

But it's somehow that app's fault?

Nope.  This is on Apple.

You have ZERO basis upon which to make that claim. 

TL;DR: we don't know whom to blame, at this point. 

You are incorrect.  This is probably Apple's fault and related to the new hardware.  First, it's the same App. Second, if Instagram did something wrong, it would have likely come up during the beta period.

Well, apparently it is in part Apple‘s fault (though partly for allowing Instagram to use that much power), and its iOS 17, and nothing to do with the new hardware. 

darkvader said:

So, the same version of the same app isn't a problem on earlier iPhones or iOS versions.

But it's somehow that app's fault?

Nope.  This is on Apple.

You have ZERO basis upon which to make that claim. 

It's absolutely possible that Insta was accessing system libraries or APIs in a way that didn't conform with proper or documented usage specifications, but worked just fine until Apple changed something. This might not even be on purpose; might just be a bug that didn't show any consequences before (though Insta has always eaten battery like crazy on my phones). 

We saw that many years ago when Apple switched their laptops' Firewire hardware to a newer version of the Agere chipset, and a bunch of audio interfaces broke. People immediately pointed at Apple and screamed bloody murder. 
…except that a bunch of interfaces, whose programmers had properly followed spec in their drivers, worked just fine. The others got driver updates eventually and started working with the new 'Books. 

TL;DR: we don't know whom to blame, at this point. 

danvm said:

I haven't found evidence that Apple Maps is taking a significant amount of market share, as you said. Maybe you could post some articles with details. 

https://www.businessofapps.com/data/navigation-app-market/