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  • White House says Trump doesn't want to harm Apple and iPhone prices won't rise

    Was Hassett the guy who was explaining and justifying tariffs in a press conference, only to be informed by a journalist that Trump had just randomly rescinded them as he spoke? 

    These officials have zero clue what’s going on, because nothing is cleared with them, nothing is planned, and nothing makes sense. 

    They are blindsided by whatever Tr*mp barfs into a microphone somewhere. 
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  • Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17

    daven said:
    I may end up driving to Canada from Wisconsin to buy my next iPhone. No way am I going to pay the Trump Tax.
    Please, drive up to Canada, buy it, and tell us what happened.   :D  You arrogantly forgot about the exchange rate difference, and you simply don't understand how tariffs really work.  Best of luck to you.
    What do you mean by "exchange rate difference", and what exactly does daven not "understand" about how tariffs work? 

    watto_cobra
  • Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17

    Countries making iPhones
    - India
    - Vietnam
    - Brazil 
    Soon: Indonesia - same thing they said you can't sell iPhones here if you don't make any here. Apple agreed to invest $1Bn. 

    But... the USA can't do it? So India can do it. Vietnam can do it. Brazil (high tech wonderland lol) can make iPhones. 

    Surely it's going to be a huge hassle to set up iPhone production in the USA, when nothing's been made here for decades. But in the long run, it will be a lot better for Apple. Apple also has north of 200Bn in cash stashed away, so they can afford it many times over to invest in plants here.

    As it is, Apple is extremely reliant on China. China can basically do whatever it wants with Apple, and Apple has to say yes. Not a good position to be n. 

    Labor costs won't be an issue since plants can be 100% automated - as Xiaomi has shown.

    SpaceX makes Starlink devices in Texas, Tesla cars in Californa and Texas, plus a giant automated gigafactory for batteries in Nevada. So yeah, absolutely, high tech can be made in the USA. I am not saying it's easy, or a piece of cake, but it can be done. Maybe Tim should ask Elon for advice... 

    PS: Xiaomi was copying Tesla for factory automation... Tesla factories are the most modern in the world. Elon invested a lot of time and energy in making them efficient to the point where they're better than anyone else's factories. 
    Some of the reasons why they don’t build them here is due to our minimum wage and labor unions. To make things at the scale of an iPhone the cost in terms of manpower, overtime, benefits, pensions, etc.  add to the cost to make iPhones here. It’s why the only thing really being built here is the extremely low volume Mac Pro
    And that is only ASSEMBLED in the U.S. Virtually all the components and electronics come from China — and are subject to tariffs, accordingly. 
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17

    netrox said:
    A 25% tariff is actually the tariff rate since 2019 imposed by Trump. 

    And you wonder why everything costs so much since then???? 
    Er… which tariffs did Tr*mp impose in 2019, and on which products specifically were they 25%? 
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Trump is too busy for his own tariff negotiations, so will dictate terms instead

    red oak said:
    People here are unhinged.  Let’s see where things stand August 1st.   
    Let's see where things stand on "Day One". 
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