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StrangeDays said:

kiltedgreen said:

9secondkox2 said:

The EU is an extortion racket. Change my mind. 

The US is a violent force destabilising peace across the world to suit its own ends. Change my mind.

Why should we? Not our job to correct stupid. 

That may have been EXACTLY the point @kiltedgreen was making. 

Well done! 

tmay said:

longfang said:

phillyfanatic09 said:

kiltedgreen said:

9secondkox2 said:

The EU is an extortion racket. Change my mind. 

The US is a violent force destabilising peace across the world to suit its own ends. Change my mind.

Nope. You have already made it up. Perhaps you would enjoy living in Ukraine under the benevolence of Vladimir Putin.

Tell that to the countries the US has brought “freedom” to. 

Now you're just asking to be told to fuck off.

Of course, I'll let someone else tell you that.

the answer is;

All of Europe,

Most of the Pacific that was occupied by Japan.

Japan, and later, South Korea, and after many decades, Taiwan. 

There's likely more, but, you are too fucking wrapped up in your ideology to actually comprehend what "freedom" is.

Vietnam

Iran

Laotian Civil War

Indonesia

Cambodia

Panama

Afghanistan

Iraq

Somalia

Libya

and probably a whole bunch more covert actions/coups that aren't public knowledge. 

canucklehead said:

avon b7 said:

foregoneconclusion said:

avon b7 said: It's all completely unnecessary on Apple's part. Why not simply ask the EU and wait for a reply? 

That's what they're doing: putting the new AI features on hold while they communicate with the EU per the DMA requirements. Note that Apple was in communication with the EU about the anti-steering changes in the DMA and now the EU is saying there's something wrong with what Apple did. 

What was unnecessary was the need to make a fuss out of things. Totally unnecessary. 

If they had simply asked and waited for a reply we wouldn't even be talking about this now. No one would have brought the question up in the first place. Vestager wouldn't have said anything. 

But no, Apple decided to FUD things up. 

That's their call but it's pretty foolish, petty and probably won't help in the bigger scheme of things. 

Apple’s going for friction so... so be it. 

Except these features are due to come out shortly and likely, these discussions won’t produce a resolution by that time. Apple is ensuring that the people in the EU have the right expectations when the next OSs are launched.

What Apple is doing here is publicly blaming delays in the European release of these features on the EU Commission in a blatant political stunt. 

Everybody already knew that the features would be coming to the EU later. They always do. (We've been waiting for a functional version of Siri for almost thirteen years now, and News never made it to most of Europe at all.) 

Vestager made a PERSONAL comment about Apple making that comment in hopes that it would turn the EU public against the EU Commission (it isn't), and called them out on it. 

9secondkox2 said:

avon b7 said:

temperor said:

PS: the solution is simpel, and it will het the EU where it hits hard, just make a US Apple ID, all will work and all the revenue you spent will benefit the US government as taxes will land in the US . Look who is laughing now.

That kind of thinking went out the window a very long time ago. 

Back when books were mostly on paper I would buy plenty of English language content direct from Amazon US. Even with shipping it was cheaper than buying the same imported content locally. 

As the business grew, it popped up on the EU radar and, poof, the loophole was gone. An EU directive placed obligatory, country-of-origin sales tax on all transactions via cards based in the EU.

Size matters, as Apple is learning, but it was good while it lasted. Apple should feel the same. 

Size doesn’t matter here. 

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Regardless of size. 

That’s how a healthy legal system views matters. 

Size mattering is literally the foundation for ALL ANTITRUST LEGISLATION. 

You may not consider antitrust part of a "healthy legal system", but that's a whole other discussion you can go be wrong about elsewhere. 

danox said:

Fork the Apple devices like every other consumer device in the world, Apple and price accordingly one world one Apple device is over.

a) regional Apple hardware variants are very much a thing, and have been at least since the 2007 iPhone. 

b) none of this stuff has the slightest to do with hardware. I really don't get what all this bullshit whining about "forking" this or that, or regional versions is all about: It's all software!

Enabling or disabling software features regionally is trivial, and done all the time — by Apple.