danvm

SpamSandwich said:

K2 said:

Actually the Daydream looks comfortable. I have a VR headset which I can slide my iPhone 6s into, it is not very nice. The Daydream (nice name) looks like it can be worn for a while. However I am sure Apple are working on a better version.

The thing that annoys me most is how slow Apple is with the Apple TV and 4K. Pretty much the last streamer that won't support it and I don't think Apple are in any hurry to offer 4K. For Pete's sake how long did it take until Apple offered 1080 resolution? This I wish they would step up on. 

Apple has adopted a "wait and see" approach in some respects. They see a trend, wait for it to flame out or accelerate, then critically evaluate what it's doing wrong or poorly, then they introduce their solution. Strategically, they have a smarter approach.

nolamacguy said:

bdkennedy said:

Apple deserves this. That Apple ad was embarrassing to watch.

It's not ok to be a fridge/toaster until it's ok to be a fridge toaster. Right, Tim?

you seem to misunderstand his metaphor. it isn't about doing more work on a tablet with a keyboard (remember, the original iPad had a keyboard accessory from Day 1, I had it). it's about trying to force an entire desktop OS onto a touch oriented mobile tablet. 

therunningvm said:

danvm said:

JD Power had the Surface Pro with nearly the same customer satisfaction as the iPad, which is consider the best tablet available.  And while there are other options, looks like the SP4 is the best hybrid, and even as a tablet, as good as iPads. 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-apples-ipad-in-customer-satisfaction-dead-heat/

I have both, iPad and SP4.  And both have positives and negatives.  I don't see them as tablet or hybrid, but as devices I need based in what I need.   Sometimes iPad is a better option, and sometime the SP4 is the way to go. 

You mention that the Surface line isn't practical as a tablet.  But when you compare an iPad Pro w/ keyboard vs SP4, the SP4 is more practical.  It has a better keyboard, trackpad and adjustable angle.  In this case, the SP4 is better than iPad.  While there are other cases where the iPad is a better option. 

No, the surface won't be as big of a hit as the iPad was. Yes, the iPad Pro is not practical as a tablet, but the surface is even more. How many people actually use them as tablets most of the time? Exactly. The surface has no tablet optimized apps, and the ones that are on the surface aren't enough. The iPad Pro, on the other hand, has a chance of attracting productivity apps optimized for it. The surface doesn't.

therunningvm said:

Thats because despite what some like to say, the surface isn't, and is never going to be, as popular as tablets, or the hybrid market won't be such a success. Add the fact that the surface isn't exactly the only windows hybrid around, and there are better options out on the market. I had a surface book, and it isn't practical as a tablet. The surface line in general isn't practical as a tablet.

JD Power had the Surface Pro with nearly the same customer satisfaction as the iPad, which is consider the best tablet available.  And while there are other options, looks like the SP4 is the best hybrid, and even as a tablet, as good as iPads. 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-apples-ipad-in-customer-satisfaction-dead-heat/

I have both, iPad and SP4.  And both have positives and negatives.  I don't see them as tablet or hybrid, but as devices I need based in what I need.   Sometimes iPad is a better option, and sometime the SP4 is the way to go. 

You mention that the Surface line isn't practical as a tablet.  But when you compare an iPad Pro w/ keyboard vs SP4, the SP4 is more practical.  It has a better keyboard, trackpad and adjustable angle.  In this case, the SP4 is better than iPad.  While there are other cases where the iPad is a better option. 

jony0 said:

Agreed. The only difference is that the first 2 comments were phrased as absolutist in their response, that's all. I can't speak for them but I suspect they both implied that their comment probably was meant … for some. I also think that's what Schiller meant, since he did add the bit about 600 million PCs that are over 6 years old. That puts them just before the iPad came out. I know many people who bought PCs just for email, browsing, Facebook, photos, music, solitaire, etc. Remember that 6 years ago, all those tasks required a desktop OS running on a PC or laptop for those who had no use for a smartphone nor its diminutive screen. I also know a lot of people who bought iPads for those same tasks after 2010, mostly because they didn't even want to buy a computer out of intimidation even though they were very curious to do those tasks, my mother is a case in point. Apple is positioning the iPad as a PC replacement for those kind of people and many more, but they are not positioning it for a replacement of all PCs or the desktop environment, at least for many years still, if ever. That's why iOS and macOS will remain distinct for the simple reason that it's …
I think the replacement trend will continue inexorably and the iPad will gradually replace more tasks currently still done in a desktop environment but never will they replace all applications, they just simply can't and they won't, just like cars will never replace all pickup trucks and it has nothing to do with the dashboard or upholstery. And all the attempts of combining them might survive as a niche but will most likely parallel the El Camino.