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nicholfd said:nicholfd said:AppleZulu said:THANK YOU APPLE - For Finally Laying that Out!The Libertarian / Free to do whatever I want crowd always tends to ignore the consequences of their actions.In this case, Apple's review and oversight of apps adds stability and security to my iPhone that I simply cannot get any other way. So again, Thank You Apple.Some might argue: Well give the user the Choice! But that's another bullshit argument.Once Apple allows sideloading, more and more vendors will simply avoid the hassle and expense of going through the app store -- and iOS will become as porous, unreliable and insecure as Android or Windows.While some might scream: "Don't take away my free choice!"I say: "Don't take away my reliability and security!"
BTW, you forgot to add macOS in the list of "unreliable and insecure",
If given the option, many developers would bypass the app store in a heartbeat if they could.
So, for instance, millions of iPhone users currently have the Facebook app loaded on their iPhone, and they can (and do) choose to say no to Facebook's request to track them through that app and across the internet in order to package and sell the resulting data. The moment Apple is forced to allow side-loading of apps outside the App Store, Facebook will be out, and millions of iPhone users will have to either quit Facebook or succumb to Facebook's undisclosed data mining practices.
So yes, there are plenty of reasons for developers to leave the App Store, and few or none of them are actually good for consumers.
At the same time, it's not always about privacy and security. One example are streaming game services, like Xbox GamePass w/ Cloud Gaming. Sometime Apple create nonsense rules that block good services. I don't think I would have any privacy or security issues side loading the Xbox Cloud Gaming app.
Again, sometimes Apple create nonsense rules that block valid services, as GamesPass Cloud Gaming. It's not always about privacy and security. And I would have no issues side loading the Xbox Cloud Gaming app if it's possible. Completely different from a company like Facebook.
pscooter63 said:A pity that DewMe’s post isn’t getting more traction here.
I have very specific and narrow use cases for my 12.9 IPP that a MBP or some Microsoft-inspired Franken-device will absolutely not satisfy. Yes, I also own a 16” MBP too.
Complainers looking for one device for all use cases would be better served fleeing to Windows. No one wants to admit they just can’t afford to have the best in class of both form factors. That’s not Apple’s problem, it’s theirs. And they’re trying to shift the problem to someone else than themselves.
Also there are cases where someone prefer a hybrid device. I have a Surface Pro 4 and I have seen it's limitations, but also where it shines. I see no difference from my Surface and my iPad when browsing the internet, use social apps or watch TV / movies in Netflix or Hulu. Also works very good for annotating documents, spreadsheets and PDF files. And when I'm on the office, I connect it to the Surface Dock and my 4K monitor and it works like a full desktop device.
This doesn't means that the Surface is perfect. Like I said before, I have seen many of it's limitations. But it's clear that it has many benefits, and I can understand when someone prefers a Surface device over an IPad.
foregoneconclusion said:It's mostly older releases from series like Doom, Fallout, Fable, Halo, Gears of War, Elder Scrolls, Yakuza etc. Don't expect much that's new for $14.99 a month. New = pay $60-$70 for a console game.
Beats said:baconstang said:applesauce007 said:I think Epic will eventually lose.
They cannot call Apple a monopoly nor anti-competitive in this case.
All they can do is build a better or cheaper product to compete against Apple. Good Luck with that.
Microsoft should be ashamed of itself for testifying against Apple in this case.
You're talking about the people that delivered Vista having shame?The company who makes knockoff everything Apple.
Surface Pro / iPad Pro
Tile / AirTag
Spotify / Apple Music
Netflix / Apple TV+
Sonos / HomePod
GamePass / Apple Arcade
Looks like nobody is perfect, including Apple.
crowley said:crowley said:tmay said:tmay said:canukstorm said:canukstorm said:sdw2001 said:Wgkrueger said:seanj said:For all those defending the "Everything Glued together & soldered together" assembly of the MacBooks by saying "Nobody ever upgraded a computer", Andrew just called bull!His biggest (only?) complaint about his M1 MacBook Air is that it can't meet his needs because it is frozen in time with what it came with when he bought it -- versus his MacPro which grew and developed with enhancements as his needs, wants and requirements grew.Likewise, my 9 year old i7 Thinkpad runs perfectly well and meets all of my needs -- because it's been upgraded to a 500Gb SSD, 16Gb Ram and an internal harddrive used for ongoing, real time backups. Without those cheap and very simple to install (5 minutes or less) upgrades the machine would have been scrap
Most people just want a computer they can do things with, rather than do things to, in other words a consumer product. With Apple they get that, which is why customer satisfaction is so high.
If you have a 9 year old Thinkpad then you’re probably either running XP (good luck browsing the Internet securely) or you’re running Linux. If it’s the latter then if you happy with a limited number of professional applications then that’s fine.I forgot to mention that its running WIndows 10. So, its security is a good as good as any Windows machine. Admittedly that's a low bar.But the point of the post was NOT about lengetivity but to reiterate what Andew said: His MacPro remained functional because it could be upgraded with additional RAM & Storage -- while his MacBook AIr could not meet his needs because it was all glued and soldered together and locked into its initial configuration when he bought it.
The point? Apple clearly looked at what its customers were actually doing, and found the benefits of hardwiring and gluing everything outweighed the negatives. While I can see the other side, I agree. I've had Macs since the Pismo PowerBook G3 (2000). The number of issues I had with those machines (getting a new one every 3-4 years) was far, far higher than now. The products are not as serviceable or upgradable. But they also don't need to be.
It offers a laptop that is lighter due it being thinner. That may not be a benefit to you but it is benefit to many consumers. So much so that Windows makers have started copying the MBA design in spades. It isn't a surprise that ultrabooks like the MBA are the hottest selling segment of the laptop market. And now with the M1 MBA, you get a laptop that's light, fast and runs cool & quiet.
The average consumer does not care about the same things that you or other IT folk care about. What they care about are devices that are convenient, easy to use, fast, quiet, cool and have access to web and their favorite apps. Sure, there are some consumers who care about upgradeability but they're far from the majority. This is the mass market. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against computers that are upgradeable but if that's what YOU are after then you should buy a device that allows you to do that.
X1 Nano Gen 1 Hardware Maintenance Manual (lenovo.com)
And this not only benefits someone who later needs a larger SSD drive, but also makes possible to service the device onsite without special tools. That could be a better design compared to Apple notebooks, where you have to send it via mail or take it to an Apple Store for service.
One would think that the market will actually decide this, not any of our arguments, but here we are, arguing to little effect, one way or another.
Lenovo ThinkPad | Military-tested Rugged Laptops | Lenovo US
Second, I agree that the M1 is a better compared to the Intel processor the X1 Nano have. But that wasn't my point. What I'm saying is that Lenovo showed that it's possible to create a thin and light device, while keeping the device easy to service.
Which service paradigm is more valuable to the consumer?
That's the question.
Also, from your post I could understand that consumers benefit outside the U.S. would be better with a non Apple device, since they have no easy access to an Apple Store for service, is that right? So we could say that there is value for consumers outside of the U.S. for a device that's easy to service, right?
And try not to spill liquid on your keyboard. Even if you have a Lenovo you very much will not enjoy the experience.
Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall With the Macbook Pro Keyboard - iFixit
Do you really think it's a good idea? Clearly not, specially with the issues we saw in the past years with keyboards and how expensive it's to replace. Compare that to what the X1 Nano service manual show, where you can replace the keyboard and battery separately.
And maybe you don't know, but ThinkPads have spill resistant keyboards, including the X1 Nano.
Even if the keyboard or trackpad fails because of the spill, you can easily replace them.