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Microsoft has priced the Surface Studio 2 at a very high tier -- it starts at $3,500, with nothing underneath it in the Surface lineup apart from its three mobile products. That's $200 more than Apple's 27 inch iMac upgraded to a Core i7, 16GB of DDR4 RAM and 1TB of SDD storage at Apple's premium prices.
Apple is known -- and often reviled by PC fans -- for its premium pricing. Yet in this case, an iMac is not just cheaper when similarly configured, but offers a wide range of significantly lower priced options starting at $1,800 for the 5K iMac, or $1,100 for the smaller 4K model where Microsoft does not.
TThe additional $200 in the Surface Studio gives you a 28" touchscreen and a GTX1060 w/6GB in the entry model, which is far better than what Apple offers in the iMac 5K and even the iMac Pro.Microsoft has never sold so many Surface PCs in a year, and its sales haven't really grown since it launched the Surface idea, so it's not really clear what he's trying to say in calling Apple's vastly larger Mac business "mediocre at best." But the words he uses are that "Apple is in a position where it can let the Mac line go old and stale because Apple isn't a computer company anymore. It's now a company that sells the iPhone."
In reality, the fact is that Apple's Mac operations have generated $25.2 billion in revenues over the last four quarters. Microsoft's total Surface revenues over the same period were $4.7 billion. Of course, most of that was from sales of its hybrid tablets, more comparable to Apple's iPad business which itself generated another $19.5 billion.Maybe the reason for the low Surface sales is that there are options from other vendors that sell similar devices with Windows at a lower cost. Compare that to Apple, that is the only vendor of iOS and macOS devices. Still, I find impressive how MS is doing after only six years in a saturated PC market.
macxpress said:larrya said:Should this really take 2 years??
If you need a professional Mac in the meantime, the iMac Pro is actually a great Pro Mac to get. It will still have significant value, even next year should you want to sell it for a new Mac Pro.
In addition, these models have been updates in a frequent basis, so high end customers have the latest specs always. There is no excuse for what Apple has done to the Mac Pro line.
GeorgeBMac said:If its online it can be hacked & stolen -- and identity theft is a growth industry.
Why would I trust Microsoft with my ID?
Actually, that's one of the big reasons why I stick to Apple products -- security and privacy. They're not invulnerable, but they're better than the rest. Far better.
Like you said, if it's online, it can be hacked and stolen. But MS have been prove very solid from a security POV, specially with their cloud services. I think that's the reason MC team with MS for this project.
StrangeDays said:Johan42 said:Diminishing returns is here. Apple’s planned obsolescence as well. Who will prevail? The customer who has no sense will.
jcs2305 said:indiekiduk said:That's quite a bold statement given it's going to take something major for the 2015 MBP and even more for the 2012 Air users to upgrade given how bad the problems with the keyboards are, and waste of money touch bar, and dongle hell, and and and...
SpamSandwich said:Here’s the thing:
Price isn’t the point. The Surface is a pile of hot garbage compared to the generally lean and efficient iPad.
I think that the iPad is the best tablet in the market. But the Surface does many things better than the iPad, specially when you add the keyboard / trackpad. For example, if I work with a complex document or spreadsheet, the Surface is a better device. Same as multitasking, where the iPad is very limited compared to Windows.
I would agree that the iPad is very efficient in many tasks, but I can said the same of the Surface in many tasks too. IMO, it all depends of what you need, the apps / applications and your workflow. I consider both, the iPad and the Surface Pro, excellent devices.
freediverx said:MaxLe0p0ld said:I wonder, why they still not bundle TEAMS into the Package - and also in TEAMS the eMail Lookup remains a Challenge -
as long as an Address is not in Active Directory, the App will not find it - it will not check your own Contacts for matches, such a Bug for over a year now...
And why will TEAMS not update via AutoUpdate on the Mac?
lkrupp said:caladanian said:Strange. The size is not the problem. The price is.
Price might a problem for YOU but NOT for professionals looking for that level of performance. It has been shown time and time again the Mac Pro is an excellent value at that level. What you want, of course, is some kind of cheap tower with a few slots you can play with. Those days a re long gone for Macs.
racerhomie3 said:GeorgeBMac said:StrangeDays said:Johan42 said:Diminishing returns is here. Apple’s planned obsolescence as well. Who will prevail? The customer who has no sense will.
Beats said:baconstang said:applesauce007 said:I think Epic will eventually lose.
They cannot call Apple a monopoly nor anti-competitive in this case.
All they can do is build a better or cheaper product to compete against Apple. Good Luck with that.
Microsoft should be ashamed of itself for testifying against Apple in this case.
You're talking about the people that delivered Vista having shame?The company who makes knockoff everything Apple.
Surface Pro / iPad Pro
Tile / AirTag
Spotify / Apple Music
Netflix / Apple TV+
Sonos / HomePod
GamePass / Apple Arcade
Looks like nobody is perfect, including Apple.