danvm

tmay said:

danvm said:

Interesting how times have changed, from Apple criticizing the Surface Pro for being a "fridge / toaster", to making the iPad the Apple "fridge / toaster".  

Apple has been building iPad's and accessory keyboards for 13 years, so I'm not seeing Apple as "hypocritical" for continuing to evolve the iPad platform.

Meanwhile, the iPad is set to gain the M3, which does indeed give it potential capabilities matching MacBook Pro branding, even as a "fridge/toaster" that you describe it.

I didn't describe the "toaster / fridge" device, it was Tim Cook.  At that time, I had a Surface Pro 4, and noticed the benefits of this type of device.  Now we see Apple with the type of device they were criticizing a few years ago.  

And if you ask me, from a hardware POV, the iPad Pro with M1 has been very capable.  But iPadOS is a different story to use as a notebook replacement.  Like I said in a previous post, iPad is a better tablet, but the Surface Pro is a better device when you connect the keyboard. I would love to have a Surface Pro with a M2 / M3 SoC.  We'll have to wait and see what Qualcomm does with the Oryon processor.  

dewme said:

danvm said:

Interesting how times have changed, from Apple criticizing the Surface Pro for being a "fridge / toaster", to making the iPad the Apple "fridge / toaster".  

You could say the same thing about jumbo smartphones and mini tablets. But that’s what make science, technology, product marketing, and running big businesses so interesting and refreshing - you get to change your mind when new evidence, greater/broader insights, emerging trends, and consumer demand compels you to “think different.” This isn’t religion. 

I agree with you.  What is interesting is that, in this case, the "Think Different" you mentioned didn't came from Apple, but from the competition. Apple just followed what other companies did.

Interesting how times have changed, from Apple criticizing the Surface Pro for being a "fridge / toaster", to making the iPad the Apple "fridge / toaster".  

lorca2770 said:

CheeseFreeze said:

Siri was always incredibly bad but suddenly feels infantile, now that I’m working witch ChatGPT a lot.

Apple has a problem. They say they’ve been investing a lot in AI, but I don’t believe for a word they’ve worked on the tech like OpenAI is delivering today; that’s just damage control by Tim Cook to keep shareholders at ease.

What people do not realize is that Siri is already part of a node connecting many other functions. The function of Siri is almost irrelevant as a stand-alone feature. HOWEVER, when applied to Apple “Notes” and its integration with others OS function the whole process is brilliant. Siri is the periscope of a submarine that not many people see. And as tradition shows for the last 25 years, Apple does not flash any product until is fully ready, while testing it unnoticed by all the users.
Siri is not and is not intended to be an: Alexa switch the lights, Alexa turn off the lights”, it goes beyond the marketing for idiots. And the AI of Apple es further ahead of those “we have millions and millions of phones with windows”.
As someone said Apple skates not to where the puck is, but to where it is going to be. If we already did not know that predicament.

If you ask me, companies like MS and Google are skating where the puck is going to be.  MS has CoPilot integrated into their ecosystem (Windows, Office, Dynamics, Github).  Google is doing the same with Bard and Workspace.  Both MS and Google have some advantages in their ecosystem over Apple, and they are taking advantage of it to advance AI.  At the moment, I haven't seen anything similar from Apple.  We'll have to wait and see what happens in the future.

Pema said:

And the list goes on (sung to the tune of The Beat Goes On):

1. MS Mobile
2. Windows (last legs)
3. Cortana 
4. Bing Schming (as heavily used as MySpace)
5. Surface (dying days)

Companies like MS are product-wise linked to Google: one-hit wonder. And then they sit around looking for new paths to forge. So they look at the fruit in Cupertino and they come up with tablets; services; phones; headphones and on and on. And they fail miserably. 

And just as they are coming up for air Apple outpaces them by a trillion miles with Vision Pro. I am certain that Google with its poor hardware record will never attempt anything similar (remember Googles Myopic Glasses ) and I am certain that MS simply does not have the skill to put together a mixed reality headset. 

Where is the monopoly of DOS? 

1.  MS Mobile - Nice OS.  I would prefer it would have existed today instead of Android.
2.  Windows (last legs) - Most popular desktop OS.  I don't think it is in it last legs, as you said.
3.  Cortana - Being replaced by CoPilot, and integrated in Windows, Office, Dynamics and Viva Sales. From what I have seen, it's far ahead of what Siri can do.
4. Bing - Far behind of Google, but still it's good to have options.
5.  Surface - Doing very good, considering they enter the market very late.  

Microsoft focus is different from Apple. They are stronger in software and services.  Azure, MS 365, LinkedIn and Github are doing very good. They also have ERP's, management tools and server software.  And Windows and MS Office are still ahead of the competition after all off these years. And now they start their push with GamePass, with +25M subscribers.  I don't think MS is a one-hit wonder, as you said.

Maybe you don't know, but MS has HoloLens, which is already being used with enterprise customers and the military.  So looks like they have skill to do a MR headset.