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  • No touchscreens coming to pro Macs, says Apple's Phil Schiller

    danvmdanvm
    sog35 said:
    danvm said:
    macxpress said:
    Is there any evidence the Surface Studio is selling? 
    Is there any evidence that any Microsoft computer selling? Touchscreens on a desktop are the biggest gimmick I've ever seen. I would almost go as far as saying touchscreen on a laptop are a gimmick too. 
    I haven't read a negative review of the Surface Studio yet, so it looks like that a usable desktop touchscreen is possible.  But it looks like Apple wasn't ready to make it happen. 
    All the reviews of the Surface Studio say the same thing: fast computer, beautiful screen,..............but ridiculously expensive. 
    Do you know that people say the same the same thing from Apple devices?

    And only worth it for a very very very small niche of the population AKA graphic designers and artists............who have $$$$ to burn.
    Yes, your are right.  Looks like the Surface Studio is worth the money for those users.  At least someone is innovating in the creative PC market, but too bad isn't Apple. 
    singularity

  • Macs and iPhones easier to support and deploy than Windows PCs, enterprise IT survey finds...

    danvmdanvm
    longpath said:
    In other news, water is wet....

    Seriously, there were TCO studies decades ago that showed the same thing. The only people who didn't get the message were either people selling Windows goods and services, support people that wanted to justify their paychecks, or the willfully ignorant/delusional.
    All companies show how their services and products have the lower TCO, and that includes IBM, HP, Dell, Oracle, Microsoft and Red Hat.  And there is no reason to believe they are lying.  As an example, here is the study where MS show the TCO for Windows 10,

    http://wincom.blob.core.windows.net/documents/Windows 10 TEI Study.pdf

    I would never expect any company to release an study where their product or service fail.  At the same time, business and enterprises have different needs, and there are cases where a product/service is not the best option while in others is the best.  A few months ago, Microsoft announce that the US DoD will upgrade 4 million devices to Windows 10,

    https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/02/17/us-department-of-defense-commits-to-upgrade-4-million-seats-to-windows-10/

    ISo it looks like there are business and enterprises have may have a better TCO with Windows 10 than other solutions, including Macs. 

    xixo

  • Apple's latest iPad Pro ads focus on notetaking, decluttering desks

    danvmdanvm
    From how few comments there, it looks like people aren't that excited or impressed with with Apple Pensil or the IPad Pro.

    I own the IPad Pro 9.7 and pencil and while I think there is a niche for it, it's not a "killer app" that's going to suddenly drive IPad sales.  The problem is, at the price point they're trying to sell it at, an Apple laptop would be more effective for 99% of the potential buyers.

    Personally, I can type 2x (+) over my writing (pen) speed.  So, while an IPad pencil might be great for artists and people taking notes in a college lecture hall, everywhere else it's terribly inefficient.

    Apple needs to give up on their post-pc vision for everything and give people what they want, a $800 laptop bult with Apple quality perhaps running an Ax chip with built in 4G/5G wireless running either an expanded OS X (with a proper file system, etc) or a hardened MacOS with all apps coming from the App Store (for security) and sand boxing anything needing custom programming (I.e. for a C++ class college classes).

    Nothing can beat the flexibility of a PC...

    I'll continue to be an IPad buyer, and the IPhone is a great product, but the two products aren't the answer for everything.  I'm not going to spend $1500 to get a decent laptop, when a serviceable $500 Windows PC will get the job done.  If Apple made an $800 laptop I'd never touch Windows again.
    The laptop format is great for some things.  The tablet format is great for other things.

    Rather than build a cheap laptop, they should simply install a touchpad in the IPad Pro's keyboard -- and then you have the best of both worlds.

    But I certainly agree with your point that it is hard to justify $1,500 for a laptop when a $500 Windows laptop meets your needs.  I suppose if you're a professional with a particular need for that $1,500 laptop it would be different.  But, most people don't buy a Porsche just to go to the grocery store.  A few do.   But not many.

    But, a $1,000 IPad that can function well in laptop mode when attached to its keyboard/trackpad would satisfy both the functional and the pricing requirement for most people.  
    You're completely overlooking TCO -- in my experience Windows notebooks are often a PITA. I've had family members ask me what to get, ignore it and get a cheap Windows machine, and call me frustrated and needing help with all the random ways Windows sucks, or failing/flaky hardware (thinking wifi adapter). Eventually ditching the machine and repeating the process. 

    You get what you pay for. 
    Most of the world disagrees with you...  
    You're right that Windows notebooks are not on par with Mac notebooks.   But then, neither is a Chevy on par with a Mercedes.  But, they'll get you to the grocery store.
    You're committing the logical fallacy known as "appeal to popularity" which has no place in this discussion:

     https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/40/Appeal-to-Popularity

    My point stands -- your $500 windows netbook argument overlooks TCO. While the up front cost is cheaper than a $1000 macbook air, it incurs additional support costs later. 
    LOL... So you are the mediator who determines what is allowed to be discussed here?   That's funny.    Especially in light of your fallacious logic.

    As a side note about initial cost and longevity:   I'm typing this on a 5 year old Windows laptop where the only maintenance has been expanded memory and an updated OS -- it meets all of my needs supremely well.   Conversely, my 2 year old IPhone and my 4 month old Apple Watch have both been in for repairs in the past 2 weeks.   That's not to trash Apple -- they make good products and back them up.  Rather, it is to point out the ideologically biased fallacy of your argument.

    Fortunately, Apple management knows better than to let themselves get painted into the corner you are trying to put them in.
    I never claimed to be a mod -- I'm just saying that in the context of rational discussion, your "But Windows is more popular!!" argument is pretty meaningless when it comes to our talk about TCO. It's a logical fallacy that has been thoroughly debunked in the link I supplied.

    As for you claim that my point about TCO is some sort of "bias" or (non-sensically) a "fallacy", you are completely wrong. It's based on data.  My point has been singular and unwavering -- Macs are cheaper to maintain because they suck less than Windows. IBM pegs it between $250-550 cheaper, in fact:

    http://www.imore.com/macs-are-543-cheaper-windows-pcs-says-ibm

    More:

    http://www.computerworld.com/article/3131906/apple-mac/ibm-says-macs-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html
    http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-devices/ibm-mac-users-need-less-it-support/d/d-id/1322698
    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/238002-ibm-claims-moving-to-mac-drastically-reduced-support-calls-operating-costs
    http://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10

    ...now that $500 netbook isn't so cheap anymore. Your singular data point about "But mine works fine!" is an anecdote, and is pretty meaningless on its own. Do you have links from enterprise orgs that back up your own anecdote, in a similar way that IBM that backs up mine?

    And I have no idea what you're talking about with Apple management and corners.

    Do I believe IBM/Jamf study results?  Of course, same I have to believe Microsoft, Oracle or Red Hat when they publish their studies.  And all of them show how their products and services have a better TCO than the competition, and I don't think they lie.  But those studies not necessarily apply to every enterprise and business case. 

    MS have their own studies that show details of Windows 10 TCO.  Would you trust them the same way as the IBM / Jamf study?

    http://wincom.blob.core.windows.net/documents/Windows 10 TEI Study.pdf

    A few months ago, MS announced that the USA DoD will move 4 millions seats to Windows 10. 

    https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/02/17/us-department-of-defense-commits-to-upgrade-4-million-seats-to-windows-10/

    I'm sure DoD they did their assignment, and analyzed other options.  But Windows 10 looks like was the right one for them.  I don't think TCO in Windows 10 should be bad if a customer went ahead with a deployment of W10 in 4 million devices.

    BTW, I found interesting for the study you posted how IBM used Jamf, and not their soluition, BigFix.  If BigFix wasn't good enough to manage Mac's environments, how do I know if it's good for managing Windows environments?  Could it be that MS System Center / Intune are better options than IBM BigFix, resulting in lower TCO?  Just saying...
    GeorgeBMac

  • Apple's latest iPad Pro ads focus on notetaking, decluttering desks

    danvmdanvm
    foggyhill said:
    wolfboy said:
    From how few comments there, it looks like people aren't that excited or impressed with with Apple Pensil or the IPad Pro.

    I own the IPad Pro 9.7 and pencil and while I think there is a niche for it, it's not a "killer app" that's going to suddenly drive IPad sales.  The problem is, at the price point they're trying to sell it at, an Apple laptop would be more effective for 99% of the potential buyers.

    Personally, I can type 2x (+) over my writing (pen) speed.  So, while an IPad pencil might be great for artists and people taking notes in a college lecture hall, everywhere else it's terribly inefficient.

    Apple needs to give up on their post-pc vision for everything and give people what they want, a $800 laptop bult with Apple quality perhaps running an Ax chip with built in 4G/5G wireless running either an expanded OS X (with a proper file system, etc) or a hardened MacOS with all apps coming from the App Store (for security) and sand boxing anything needing custom programming (I.e. for a C++ class college classes).

    Nothing can beat the flexibility of a PC...

    I'll continue to be an IPad buyer, and the IPhone is a great product, but the two products aren't the answer for everything.  I'm not going to spend $1500 to get a decent laptop, when a serviceable $500 Windows PC will get the job done.  If Apple made an $800 laptop I'd never touch Windows again.

    Ah, another "Apple needs to..." post which really means "I want this..." Just buy a notebook. And no, Apple won't ever make $500 netbooks.
    The snark is unnecessary. Seanismorris makes a good point (minus the netbook comment). Although Apple does make an $800 laptop - the Macbook Air 13 (often on sale at Best Buy for that much or even less $750 at times). I left Windows with the trainwreck that was Vista and haven't looked back - UNTIL the Surface Pro came out.  IMO, it's the perfect device - software aside. If it wasn't for Windows 10 data mining I would have already jumped.  I am really curious to see what Samsung is doing with the newly unveiled Galaxy Book line.  I'd pay iPad Pro 12.9 premium (ESPECIALLY with LTE) is it was a full OS. Hell, even make two versions of the Pro (iOS and full OS) 
    Huh! Perfect device except for the software!!! What! The tight integration of SW - HW is the whole point of Apple.
    And I've used it, it is in NO WAY, a perfect device at all !! Man.
    Does Apple have the perfect device?  Don't think so.  Every device, smartphone, tablet, notebook, PC, 2-in-1, excel at some things and fail at others.  Many Mac users have iPads, since the Mac won't do all the things they need, and vice versa.  2-in-1 / SP4 have compromises too, but there are many people that benefits from the way they work. 

    I have a SP4, and I know is not the perfect device.  But it does more than an iPad or a Mac, even though is not the best tablet or the best notebook.  Right now I miss some features from my iPad and MBA, but at the same time I see some advantages over my Apple devices.  Like I posted before, customer satisfaction of the SP4 may prove MS is doing something right, even though still not the perfect device.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-apples-ipad-in-customer-satisfaction-dead-heat/
    GeorgeBMac

  • Apple's Macs and iPads fall to third place in US classroom use

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    magman1979 said:
    huckdaisy1 said:
    sflocal said:
    Sad, but the reality is that most schools will use what is the cheapest, not the best.  My nephews use Chromebooks in school and it just pains me to see the frustrations in their faces when those cheap pieces of junk act up.  
    It pains me to see in classrooms these stupid apple laptops which are too thin with terrible keyboards.  Why they are obsessed with laptops so thin is beyond me.  As a long time shareholder I think their laptops suck.
    Funny, since one of the hallmarks of Apple laptops are the keyboards and touch pads being best-in-class. And you say their laptops suck? Your BS wreaks of troll, get lost.

    Apple trackpads are great, but the same cannot be said from the keyboards, specially the new ones.  In my experience, Lenovo Thinkpads have the best notebook keyboard, and the SurfaceBook has a very good keyboard too. 
    GeorgeBMac