danvm

mark fearing said:

When will the alternative X-Box store launch on the X-box?

Xed said:

ITGUYINSD said:

This headline makes me laugh.  It infers people are buying more Macs than PC's because of AI when in fact, it just happens all Mac's are AI-capable whereas all PC's are not.

I don't think most people buy a Mac or PC for it's AI capabilities (some do, but not most).  

Not to mention (the article certainly didn't) that Apple's AI (Apple Intellegence) is far behind most other players in the AI space.   

1) I think both the title and article are clear. I see no ambiguity with the phrasing "AI-capable PC market."

2a) Why evidence do you have that shows that Apple Intelligence in macOS is far behind Copilot in Windows? I've used both and don't see Windows being ahead in PC OS comparisons.

2b) If you want to include 3rd-party AI options, all of those are available cross platform. I do use ChatGPT quite often for finding solutions to Windows issues these days as it speeds up my searching quite a bit so I don't have to read forms or Windows verbose documentation.

2c) I'm hoping that Apple incorporates Deepseek but I assume they have a contract with ChatGPT that won't allow a 3rd-party competitor to be included.

MplsP said:

Alex_V said:

StrangeDays said:

But why tho? Do that many people want to pay for an entirely different line of service, when we can just hotspot on our existing paid line? What am I missing 

Conditions in the market change. Remember when, back in the 1990s, Americans were lagging behind in cell phone use because of exorbitant charges? Providers can offer discounted pure data plans for devices like laptops, for example. 

There is likely a small subset of users who want cellular connectivity on their laptop but the overwhelming majority of users are not willing to pay for an extra cellular line just to avoid tethering to their phone. There are a signifiant number of cellular iPad users out there. Some of them may prefer to use a MacBook over an iPad but again, I suspect it's not a huge number. I'm with @StrangeDays, @yyzguy & @M68000  - until the carriers allow bundling I have no interest in paying an extra $30 per month just to avoid tethering.

Out of curiosity, do any PC laptop makers have a built in cellular modem? Assuming there are no royalties involved this may be a case where the incremental cost for Apple to add their own modem to every device is trivial, essentially the production cost of the chips. 

danox said:

danvm said:

danox said:

danvm said:

emoeller said:

This is great news, and very Apple!

NVIDIA is getting a lot of attention today for its chips, but in reality it isn't so much its chips that make AI work it is their software platform and its ability to integrate with its chips.    Sounds like Apple doesn't it - and in fact it is.

Apple has an AI opportunity to leapfrog everyone else by utilizing its chips and an ultra-efficient software stack to process Large Language Models (LLM) on its servers.  This will also allow Apple to take the high road in terms of ensuring that only high quality and LEGAL data is used for its AI LLMs - something no other AI company currently is doing.

What you suggest of Apple utilizing its processors and software stack is already in place in Microsoft, Google and Amazon with Maia, Axion and Trainium2. A big advantage these three companies have is that already have large datacenters in place, while Apple still behind in this area.  Apple had an opportunity to be a leader in this market, but didn't took advantage of it, and now competition are ahead of them. We'll see what they announce in WWDC.

Apple isn't behind as many would like to believe and their path will be different than the rest in tech and the resulting geek howl will be hilarious as usual.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1cwdlak/notebookcheck_apple_m4_soc_analysis_amd_intel_and/ 

https://beebom.com/early-snapdragon-x-elite-benchmarks-cant-beat-apple-m3/

My comment was about processors used in datacenters, and has no relation to the M4 SoC used in a tablet device.

Second, if Apple is not behind in AI, why we are waiting for WWDC to see their AI/LLM roadmap? That's different from. MS and Google, that already have AI/LLM implemented in their products and services. 

Since when has Apple given out details about anything major that wasn't ready to ship, I would prefer Apple keep designing/engineering building the M4, M5 and M6 SOC'S, but target some of those chip towards servers for themselves and the public and until WWDC no one really knows where Apple is in AI, but we do know what/where Apple Silicon is when compared to the competition over the last four years, ahead of the pack. With Neural Engines, LiDAR, UMA memory, bandwidth and plenty of Apple OS support.