danvm

kevin kee said:

danvm said:

  So it looks like MS has "mastered" facial recognition for many years.  But maybe you didn't knew.

And yet it failed in demo.

Did you saw the presentation?  I did, and there was no demo of Windows Hello.  But maybe I miss it.

mdriftmeyer said:

danvm said:

cpsro said:

Apple already forged into the uncharted territory of facial recognition for the masses, so everyone knows it's possible and practical. It's scary Microsoft hasn't mastered it after years to get it right, though. But that's just like Apple to make technology work so well that people forget the complexity.

MS had face recognition since the release of Kinect for X360 in 2010, and it worked extremely well.  After that, they had Windows Hello in the Surface Pro 4 since 2017, and every Surface device have it.  Apple came later, and acquire PrimeSense, the same company MS use to build Kinect, to develop FaceID.  And as today, the only devices with FaceID are iPhones and iPads.  So it looks like MS has "mastered" facial recognition for many years.  But maybe you didn't knew.

MS had rudimentary face recognition on Kinect. Today's FaceID is orders of magnitude more advanced.

Of course FaceID is far more advanced than the Kinect technology at the time.  My point was to respond the post that "Apple already forged into the uncharted territory of facial recognition for the masses...".  MS have been doing face recognition for years and it's already in all of their devices, something even Apple have not done yet.

rotateleftbyte said:

Microsoft and Google on the same device?

Clearly a marriage of arc slurpers that is made IMHO in hell.

The question for those who are not MS Fanboi's is 'Why?'

Why would anyone in their right mind want to buy one of these?

I wonder how long it will receive updates? 3 months? 6 months?

MS should really give up on this stuff and let people who know how to do this sort of this to do it well.

To answer your questions, I think we'll have to wait until the end of the year, and maybe even more until devices and apps are available.  

And based in yesterday demo, I think MS should be included in the group of people "who know how to do this sort of this to do it well."

cpsro said:

Apple already forged into the uncharted territory of facial recognition for the masses, so everyone knows it's possible and practical. It's scary Microsoft hasn't mastered it after years to get it right, though. But that's just like Apple to make technology work so well that people forget the complexity.

MS had face recognition since the release of Kinect for X360 in 2010, and it worked extremely well.  After that, they had Windows Hello in the Surface Pro 4 since 2017, and every Surface device have it.  Apple came later, and acquire PrimeSense, the same company MS use to build Kinect, to develop FaceID.  And as today, the only devices with FaceID are iPhones and iPads.  So it looks like MS has "mastered" facial recognition for many years.  But maybe you didn't knew.

Beats said:

Hypocrisy as usual.

The sad thing is, FaceID did not fail and worked as it's supposed to. It's just like Huawei to mock the company who invented the iPhone and push their iKnockoffs as "better iPhones".

Windows surface running Android?! lol Microsoft needs to quit hardware already.

I don't think MS will quit the hardware business, considering it's was close to $2B last quarter.