danvm

nht said:

danvm said:

I don't think that many pro's will build their own PC's, but they'll look closely at workstation from vendors like HP.  They have done an excellent in keep their systems up to date.  And many of their modelos are far more capable than Mac Pros and the iMac Pro.  Apple could learn a lot from HP, specially in the workstation market. 

TCO matters and the way your work environment feels matters too...whether it's a $1000 standing desk or a $700 chair or a sleek and quiet $5000 iMac vs a utilitarian $4000 tower and black slab monitor on drab cubicle desk and crappy office.chair.

Even the leanest startup seeks to have a certain geek aesthetic to attract talent because at the end of the day scoring a couple extra hours of work from an employee every day who's happy at his bamboo standing desk with iMac Pro is a positive ROI.  There's just something nice about working with well designed gear.  $2000 doesn't buy a lot of labor hours...

The "geek aesthetic" goes down in importance when you start working.  The internals of the device defines what really is a workstation, and HP is miles ahead of Apple.  You'll notice that the iMac is very similar to the HP Z4, and entry model.  Apple has nothing close to the Z6 or Z8.  I'll suggest you to do some research, and you'll see why I posted  that Apple has much to learn from HP in the workstation market. 

macxpress said:

Bottom line is this...if true professionals wanted to fuck around building their own PC, and providing their own support then this would have been the norm far before Apple came long. Obviously, this is not the case.  So you can go on your PCPartPicker site and build whatever the hell you want and it still isn't going to come close to what the Mac experience is. The end result is more than the sum of the parts that go inside the the computer (Mac or PC)...its far more than that. If this wasn't the case then Apple wouldn't be where it is today in the Professional field and they wouldn't continue to use their products. 

I have a feeling that the iMac Pro will end up selling very well because it appeals to a very broad base. If you feel you need more than the iMac Pro, its coming. If maybe you can't wait, get the iMac Pro and when the new Mac Pro arrives, sell the iMac Pro for pretty much exactly what you paid for it, and buy the Mac Pro and whatever display you want. You really won't be out much in the end if anything. 

Time is money for them and being their own IT Technician is a huge waste of their time. The build posted by @VRing is not going to make massive amounts of Professionals switch their all of their shit to Windows. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGV9sJ

lkrupp said:

And it’s over. Everybody got their shots in against Apple, spewed their vitriol and venom, predicted gloom and doom, pontificated till the cows came home. We now return you to our regularly scheduled program of pissing and moaning about something else Apple has or has not done. 

boogerman2000 said:

Microsoft losing accounts left and right while Belfiore posts pics of treehouse 'meeting room' on Twitter. Stupid, stupid company. No vision, focus or discipline.

Windows Phone was the catalyst. long term? Game ova.

Rayz2016 said:

danvm said:

When Samsung, HTC and others later tried to copy Apple's work, they introduced glaring security issues that did things like save an unencrypted photo of the user's fingerprints to the filesystem as world-readable (without setting any file permissions) so that any process could easily read and extract the data. 

Interesting how you use the term "copy" with Samsung and HTC , but there is no mention on how Apple did the same with MS and Windows Hello, which has been part of the Surface since 2015.  

Yeah, but the Surface isn't a phone. I imagine it's hard getting that kind of tech behind a laptop screen, but getting it to work on a phone...