LoneStar88

You anti-Trump bozos are so predictable to fall for just another piece of media bullshit. Swallow and mindlessly repeat all the crap you want about him, but he will be our next President. And if Apple actually won't be supporting him at the convention, it won't be their biggest error. But I seriously don't believe this "story" is factual.

I think Coach has made a decent first showing. It's a good indicator that third-party companies are interested in Apple Watch.

My Sport 42 is one year old as of Fathers Day, and I've been very pleased with it. Looking forward to WatchOS 3.

jasenj1 said:

I guess I'm old and jaded. As a professional software developer I find it really hard to believe coding on the iPad will produce anything "real". Maybe it will give people a taste of breaking a problem down into steps, working with picky syntax, and introduce some other basic software production concepts. But compared to XCode, Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, and other "real" development environments, Swift Playground seems almost delusional.

You had me at "old and jaded." So why did you go on?

I kinda think Apple knows what it's doing. So, let it be, pal.

I've been trying to learn Apple OS programming for too many years, but none of you smug bastards ever seemed to want to provide any comprehensive path to learning what y'all know. Sure, there's a lot of documentation out there, but that in itself has been a barrier for me: where to start? where to go if I had a problem? how to learn basic concepts and design paradigms?, etc.

Well, this to me seems like finally a comprehendible bridge into Apple OS programming which finally gives some immediate feedback through Swift's "playgrounds" without the relative complexity of XCode.

It also gives me a good reason to need and want an iPad. I'm excited!

I wonder if these Indian bureaucrats realize the potential boost to India's "app economy" by Indian Apple app development companies creating jobs, not just manufacturing jobs, as an important benefit and side effect from Apple selling a lot more products through its Indian retail stores.

ireland said:

LoneStar88 said:

Nope. Apple is doing enough already with iOS devices, Watch, and its health-related frameworks to enable and support activities such as these which must be quite complex in themselves.

Part of the company's relative genius is knowing when to say, "No."

Disagree. Saying no to this isn't genius. It a compliment to their health initiative. Saying no to distractions is what Apple means. This is well within their wheelhouse and it's not a hardware product—it's a potential framework or native app to solve a health-related problem. It's important. It aligns perfectly with Apple's values. A tiny team in some some room working for Apple on this problem. It's noble.

It may be noble, but it's NOT in their wheelhouse.

Apple's stated purpose is "To make the best products." These are hardware products which typically are computerized, which necessitate Apple-designed operating systems and other software.

Sir Jony mentioned Apple saying "No" more often than "Yes" in reference to them deciding on which projects Apple should take on. Setting boundaries (policy) is important for a company so that it doesn't get to dispersed in too many directions.